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07-18-2010 , 07:36 AM
Which "him" are you referring to?
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07-18-2010 , 09:12 AM
man wtf this **** is ****ing annoying god ****ing damn it
for some reason on stars everytime i mt and im sizing a bet, sometimes when i come to click to confirm the bet, my other tables will affect my bet sizing and put it back to a min raise

i mean look at this **** wtf goddamn **** ass client how the ****

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 810019
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN/SB: $206.00
Hero (BB): $210.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 8 A
BTN/SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, BTN/SB raises to $54, Hero raises to $88, BTN/SB calls $34

Flop: ($176.00) 4 7 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $122.50 all in, BTN/SB calls $118 all in

Turn: ($412.00) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($412.00) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $412.00
BTN/SB shows Q 9 (a flush, Queen high)
Hero shows 8 A (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
BTN/SB wins $411.50
(Rake: $0.50)

btw this guy mr.andrew-83 is so gay, quitting shortly after
some ppl think they so good
he was saying he crush everyones game

just another ****ing bumhunter full of ****, **** people nowadays
how can he have such a high bb/100 winrate when hes 4betting q9s early in game

Last edited by WhateverSon; 07-18-2010 at 09:26 AM.
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07-18-2010 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WhateverSon
how can he have such a high bb/100 winrate when hes 4betting q9s early in game
because you're 3betting/5betting A8o?
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07-18-2010 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
because you're 3betting/5betting A8o?
no he has no idea really what my 3betting range is made of, its just high at 40% over a small sample

he should call with q9s and 4bet hands like q9o for example
+ev

btw does any1 know how to fix my problem
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07-18-2010 , 09:25 AM
That 5bet is really bad with your entire range, except possibly AA/KK and even then only if you expect to not play someone for very long. A8o is fine for jamming if you think he's bluffing a decent percentage as you've got ~30% when called, but giving him 4.5:1 on a call is ******ed. He basically can't fold anything ever. So his play really is totally fine and yours is really suspect...

-Andy
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07-18-2010 , 09:27 AM
Just because he happened to 4bet q9s doesn't mean he's bad. The difference between the playability of q9s and q9o isn't THAT large. He may well have just picked that spot for flow reasons or whatever and felt like you might fold.

As I said, his play is pretty fine.

-Andy
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07-18-2010 , 09:28 AM
man u dont get it!!!!!! i was frking spposed to 5bet jam *&#@*&#(#*@
for some reason my jam got canceled right before i click
it min raises, its been doing this a lot when i multi table
its ****ing annoying
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07-18-2010 , 09:30 AM
Ah right. Well his play is pretty okay in any case. Sucks for you though =/

-Andy
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07-18-2010 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Andykay
Just because he happened to 4bet q9s doesn't mean he's bad. The difference between the playability of q9s and q9o isn't THAT large. He may well have just picked that spot for flow reasons or whatever and felt like you might fold.

As I said, his play is pretty fine.

-Andy
his 4bet with q9s is terribad, we had not played many flops and he just assumes im just a bad aggro plyr, just play suited hands like this ip, its so much ev
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07-18-2010 , 09:40 AM
If you're 3betting 40%, 4betting any two cards is going to be hugely profitable. Even if you do 5bet the top 8% of hands plus any Ax, you're still going to have to fold your 3bet more than 2/3 of the time.

Q9s is not that strong and i'd wager he makes more 4betting with it than by flatting it.

-Andy
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07-18-2010 , 09:50 AM
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I have played 37k hands in 8 days this month. Anyone beat that?
scik grind ethic
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07-18-2010 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WhateverSon
his 4bet with q9s is terribad, we had not played many flops and he just assumes im just a bad aggro plyr, just play suited hands like this ip, its so much ev
i dont think his 4bet is terribad... in a vacuum flatting might be preferable but if he wants to set up some 4betting dynamic because you are 3betting him 40% at that point it's absolutely fine to 4bet here instead... i understand that you are tilted because you misclicked which cost you the hand but i don't think his play is bad at all...

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If you're 3betting 40%, 4betting any two cards is going to be hugely profitable. Even if you do 5bet the top 8% of hands plus any Ax, you're still going to have to fold your 3bet more than 2/3 of the time.

Q9s is not that strong and i'd wager he makes more 4betting with it than by flatting it.

-Andy
also this!!
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07-18-2010 , 10:01 AM
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07-18-2010 , 10:06 AM
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If you're 3betting 40%, 4betting any two cards is going to be hugely profitable. Even if you do 5bet the top 8% of hands plus any Ax, you're still going to have to fold your 3bet more than 2/3 of the time.

Q9s is not that strong and i'd wager he makes more 4betting with it than by flatting it.

-Andy
ok interesting...

reason y i 5bet jam here is because i know hes adjusting, this is his 3rd 4bet in a short sequence
hes also been timing a little prf thinking
so pretty standard

and ok mathematically u could make an argument for 4betting q9s pre
but given game dynamics and flow i think its a leak

and whatever id prefer 4bet with 27 than q9s

q9s just owns ip

and its just important imo to have a balanced polarized 4betting range
because when we get 5bet and have to fold with a hand like q9s we lose all are postflop advantage ip with a suited broadway connected hand vs a 3betting range thats extremely wide

-ev imo

Last edited by WhateverSon; 07-18-2010 at 10:18 AM.
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07-18-2010 , 10:17 AM
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Took a break, this is the last 5 days

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how the fk do u play so many hands in 5 days, is there something ppl do that i dont know??
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07-18-2010 , 10:19 AM
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saw inception last night, would watch again, A but not A+

edit: very close in quality to Dark Knight and Memento but probably a bit short of both which are obviously awesome Nolan films

double edit: probably equal actually cause the acting was stellar
looking forward to see inception

been watching lots of movies lately and must say The shawshank redemption is amazing.
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07-18-2010 , 10:20 AM
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Which "him" are you referring to?
Pokerblah. He ran it up to 2k vs some guy and the guy quit him, while I was on the WL After I busted him he ran it up to $2k vs upskthx within 10 min. Upskthx starts saying he's gonna report him for cheating, etc. while obv going on massive tilt. Pretty funny all together.
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07-18-2010 , 10:23 AM
multi table regs
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07-18-2010 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by WhateverSon
ok interesting...

reason y i 5bet jam here is because i know hes adjusting, this is his 3rd 4bet in a short sequence
hes also been timing a little prf thinking
so pretty standard

and ok mathematically u could make an argument for 4betting q9s pre
but given game dynamics and flow i think its a leak

and whatever id prefer 4bet with 27 than q9s

q9s just owns ip

and its just important imo to have a balanced polarized 4betting range
because when we get 5bet and have to fold with a hand like q9s we lose all are postflop advantage ip with a suited broadway connected hand vs a 3betting range thats extremely wide

-ev imo
You also have to factor in, a lot of people flat 4bets these days. Q9s is a great hand to have when someone flat's a 4bet since it makes a ton of hands you can go with on various flops, so your 'bluff' still connects a good amount. At the same time, it's not as good as something like KQs or whatever in terms of playability. Sure, Q9s is a good hand to flat a 3bet with, but it's also a solid hand to 4bet with.

-Andy
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07-18-2010 , 10:35 AM
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You also have to factor in, a lot of people flat 4bets these days. Q9s is a great hand to have when someone flat's a 4bet since it makes a ton of hands you can go with on various flops, so your 'bluff' still connects a good amount. At the same time, it's not as good as something like KQs or whatever in terms of playability. Sure, Q9s is a good hand to flat a 3bet with, but it's also a solid hand to 4bet with.

-Andy
ok i am not bluffing when i jam a8, if he has a high 4betting frequency then i am value shoving for the most part because a8 is ahead of his whole 4betting range
and ok calling 4bets nowadays i understand that, but doesnt mean its profitable or ev in certain spots, especially 100bb deep
i just fkng hate the concept of 4betting these hands
and yeah when regs flat 4bets 100bb deep its mostly slowplayed aces in my exp

Last edited by WhateverSon; 07-18-2010 at 10:41 AM.
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07-18-2010 , 10:40 AM
Sick graphs bro.
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07-18-2010 , 10:40 AM
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ok i am not bluffing when i jam a8, if he has a high 4betting frequency then i am value shoving for the most part because a8 is ahead of his whole 4betting range
and ok calling 4bets nowadays i understand that, but doesnt mean its profitable or ev in certain spots, especially 100bb deep
just because A8 might be ahead of his 4betting range doesn't make it a value shove lol... it is only 4 value if it is ahead of his 4bet/CALLING!! range... and 5bet shoving A8o most likely will be a bluff because he won't end up calling with worse often...
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07-18-2010 , 10:45 AM
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Sick graphs bro.
Sick avatar bro.
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07-18-2010 , 10:45 AM
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just because A8 might be ahead of his 4betting range doesn't make it a value shove lol... it is only 4 value if it is ahead of his 4bet/CALLING!! range... and 5bet shoving A8o most likely will be a bluff because he won't end up calling with worse often...
ok makes sense, sry im still a 100nl plyr in the process of learning
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07-18-2010 , 10:48 AM
i really want to learn HU cash. i do not want to play SNGs. i've played plenty of HU cash, and it's clear that i'm somewhere between not completely terrible and not all that great. i'd like play a ton of hands to try to get better. but at NL50 i swing up and down $500/day, and i just don't want to gamble with that much $. it certainly could also be the case that i'm not good enough to beat the rake there. but at NL20, the rake is just huge. assuming i'm slightly better than the field there, i just get owned by the rake. how the **** can i practice HU cash without burning $50-100/day?
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