Well I have had success with both mini golf and the move. You obviously dont do the move on the first hole its something you do later on ie Your swing has been "****house" all day let me shows you how it done. It worked for me thats all I know. I date sporty chicks so mini-golf is +EV but if the chick is not into sports it prob wouldnt be a great date. It obviosly works better to play mini golf then go for lunch or a drink afterwards. From my experiences any activites that aren't directly face to face tend to work out fairly well, even if the two people aren't compatiable date wise they will still to some degree have fun.

With regard to hair trimming, laser is best option but is incredibly expensive for something like chest. I've considered doing it for the back of my neck so I don't have to trim as much between haircuts as my hair grows fairly quickly and I usually get it cut every 5 weeks or so. I don't shave in most places since it's fairly time consuming and can cause irritation, ingrown hairs etc. I have some wet/dry body groomer from Norelco I think that works pretty well and trims the hair short.

I did that mini-golf swing thing with my ex gf as a joke since it's so played out. Think it would be pretty awkward with a new girl. You could also go with Yeota's advice of berating the girl, that's worked well for him in the past

so I was bored and signed up on ok cupid. Scored date with Russian chick. Pretty good looking girl, smart, witty, like me a stranger in Germany so a legit reason to be on there.

we exchanged quite a few messages online discussing various common interests (music/movies/books) and she has very sophisticated tastes, and was clearly impressed with my knowledge of her country/russian literature and also confessed her fascination for my home country (France).

Normally I would have avoided so much messaging as it's kind of killing momentum, but was busy with work and had to flake on her once too.
We met tonight in a cool, arty, café. I could see she was very nervous at first, but after the second glass of wine she relaxed. Conversation went smoothly, loads of good eyes contact, funny moments. Discussed a lot of places we both went to in Europe, spoke a bit in German just to laugh. She mentionned at some point "why would you go on an online dating site, it seems pretty easy for you to meet girls", which I took as a mark of appreciation but also of low self-esteem on her side.
Just answered by saying that I was actually very busy working 60 hours a week and that it was a cool way to meet interesting people (which is true, because in Germany most people on OKC are expats = higher education/high income).

Then we took a walk, but the conversation was just too intellectual to build up any kind of physical contact. Saw her off at the underground, she kissed me goodbye on the cheek (like any French girl would do)
She's leaving town in two months to a Nordic country where she studies. Looks like a "serious girl" and her OKC cupid says "to meet new people" or whatever it is. Also she mentionned something about previous dating experiences "not going too well" (screams low confidence to me too).

I have very little experience with this whole online dating thing and I am a bit puzzled. She's actually cool, smart and good looking, and I would not have anything against banging the **** out of her for the time being.

What's my play and how do I escalate this into us being naked listening to the red army choir ?
(we discussed a few movies we like so I guess that's the easy way, but I feel like I missed something somewhere on how to make things go further, which I normally don't when I meet girls through "normal channels").

tyty

it was awesome, i recommend it. all the fun you can have for $3.56

Weren't you talking about an Altoids BJ like last year GCG? I remember trying it after reading in this thread.

Do Pop Rocks next.

What language were you mostly speaking in?

The Mittens Playbook:
- touch her a lot on dates
- hype up something you guys can do/try at your place, then invite her back to do it
- profit

Yes, and that was actually as a previous incarnation, "busto-and-hates-all-rich-people" GCG. Gotta say, while that one wasn't any better as a human being, he was a far more entertaining trainwreck then.

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This works much better if when you are choosing a place to live you choose to live where you'll be socializing and obviously live alone.

she texted me with plans for Friday or next Wednesday, which include watching a movie at my place, so I guess problem solved. But definitely good points Goofy/Henry I will keep that in mind for next date (Saturday!) and will try not to discuss double standards in Anna Karenine so much with that one.

yup, pretty much this.

So the girl just puts pop rocks in her mouth then blows you? Intriguing...

Yep. The popping provides a very unique sensation. Obviously it gets sticky so you'll need to shower or clean off after.

The hardest part is actually finding a place that sells the Pop Rocks. I guess you could just order online but you'll probably have to buy in bulk.

Im clearly doing life wrong if I cant get a girl to swallow my load and eat pop rocks at the same time srs

baby steps

While we're on the topic...

How common is swallowing in your experiences? Girl I am currently dating doesn't swallow and it's driving me crazy. She doesn't even spit, just pulls it away as soon as I start to go and lets it go wherever. Complained to my guy friends and they said I've ran way above EV in this area and not swallowing is more common than swallowing. Maybe I'm misremembering but I swear this is the first girl I've been with who absolutely refuses to swallow.

This is the first I have heard about the pop rocks (I don't even know what pop rocks are) but the Altoids has been going on 20+ years -- it is part of their marketing, part of pop-culture, etc. When it was first discussed here and a majority had not heard of it I found that very odd. If you find old Maxims and look at the Altoids ads it is pretty clear that this was fully embraced by the company.

Most of the girls I've been with had nothing against it, a couple refused to but they were also not fun/adventurous in general in bed.

my experience is if they allow you to get off in there mouth, they swallow.

been something like 1/3 yes 2/3 no here, running bad probably.

lol'd hard at "lets it go wherever." Just shoot it in her eyes once or twice and that practice will change real quick.



This is my experience as well. Also, I've changed a few girls that were hookups from non-swallowers to swallowers. You're welcome planet earth.

I do remember feeling super awkward mid-beej a few times b/c I didn't know what the girl's stance was on the subject. There's not really a great time to ask her imo - maybe right after she starts?

First time I ever got blown was in a high school bathroom stall. The girl let me finish in her mouth but then snap-spit it into the open toilet she was sitting on. Stay classy, Georgia.

Just tell her you're about to finish as you're about to finish, then everything takes care of itself.

Mehhh ya but then I end up thinking about it at some point during.

I've asked before like RIGHT after she starts and it was a little better than waiting til I'm about to bust imo. My thinking here is that, if she already has her lips square around/near your junk, this question isn't a dealbreaker. Asking too early can be. Then, if she says yes, you stretch back and relax and life is good. She says no, you spend 2 seconds thinking of an alternate plan and THEN sit back and relax.

Some girls get pissy if you don't tell then when you're about to bust but like... if she can't tell on her own, she's doing it wrong imo (unless you're a 2 pumps and a squirt kind of dude)

If you make it clear when you are about to finish and the rest is up to her.