The Thin Blue Line is a must watch. Man there are so many great documentaries on Netflix instant these days. I seem to be adding three to my queue for every one I watch. I'd keep the subscription even if they had no other streaming content.

wow how is 127 hours a movie. A 90 minute closeup of james franco screaming. i have so much respect for anyone who can get through more than 5 minutes of when he starts

Just saw it...very interesting and definitely gets you riled up. However, it's all from one point of view, that of the "Friends of the Barnes" people. Granted, the Mayor has a few sound bites, but really no one else from the other side is really heard from.

On the one hand I lean towards thinking that anything that allows this incredible collection to be seen by more people is doing more good than bad. But then, from what the film leads us to believe, it was a blatant theft of the collection and an illegal changing of a trust.

So it kind of left me perplexed.

Just watched this, and it's definitely worth these rave reviews. What an amazing story. This is obviously not an isolated case of wrongful conviction. I want to plug The Innocence Project, which I believed started off jointly at Cardozo and Wisconsin law schools. It's a law school clinic where law students, under the watch and direction of law professors, attempt to reverse wrongful convictions. There are numerous unbelievable stories to read , if anyone is interested. I really support them and they could use all the support they can get...not much money in trying to get convictions overturned if you're not O.J.

On a similar note, I think it's hysterical that my crazy criminal procedure professor literally had the entire class watch Crash because he basically thinks cops are all racist. Apparently that was a better method for us to learn about the value of our Constitution's 4th Amendment protections from the police/DA than this film was. Ha.

Just watched this about a week ago. It's very well-made, but gets a little too bogged down in the details, imo. There are a lot of characters to keep track of, and it's not always easy.

No, it wasn't good. I watched it all. It was pretty trippy and somewhat creepy. Jennifer Connelly was pretty.. pretty meh. Didn't know she sported a unibrow back then.

I'll give it a 6/10

** It was kinda neat watching it after seeing Black Swan though. I really like that storyline.

The Mayor has his speech at the beginning and (now-ex) Governor Rendell and Attorney General Mike Fisher are also interviewed, 3 of the key players in getting the Barnes collection moved to Philadelphia.

I thoroughly and absolutely disagree with your second paragraph. It's not about the QUANTITY of people. So you can't cram 5,000 people a day in to see the art, so what? Anyone can still go see the art where it is today, and I would vehemently argue, have much more of a unique and intimate experience of the art than if it is in some ginormous, sterilized museum environment. Didn't you see those blueprint plans for where they're moving it to the new space? They're attempting to replicate Barnes' layout exactly but not the space itself, as if that's not an important factor in a human being's experience. It's so stupid, and there's no logical reason for why they can't fix up the Barnes (it would seem to cost less to do that than to build a whole another complex) other than money. And there's an arboretum there in addition to the collection.

The whole raison d'etre of the collection for Barnes was education and they've completely subverted that, first by swindling Lincoln University and then by moving it to the sterilized, impersonal atmosphere of the museum. That's what angers me more than anything else since it wasn't as if Barnes was hiding away his collection in some private, rich man's vault somewhere.

Uh, this is embarrassing. In fact, I am not joking when I say that someone should have alerted the department head to this fact, because it makes the class look like an absolute joke.

What did he show for the final--The Departed or The Boondock Saints?

Ugh.

Maybe not the right place but I stumbled across Jafar Panahi (and Mohammad Rasoulof) and his films while checking out reviews to decide which Kiarostami film to see first - many of you might already know about this, but some might not and it is pretty appalling:

http://currentconflicts.foreignpolic...ars-in-prison/

http://blogs.indiewire.com/anthony/a...n_for_6_years/

You think I'm going to complain about watching a movie for two days in class? His choice would have to have been a snuff film for me to say anything.

Do you pay to go to school?

No.

The Fighter
Just saw this yesterday. what a fantastic film. Every actor or actress had me completely sold on what it would be like to live in a lower middleclass neighborhood in Lowell, Mass and the protectionism from within that outsiders have to endure. I loved teh use of the real HBO fight calls during Wards fights. the fight scenes were some of the best I've ever seen. Oscar noms for Cinematography and Christian Bale for Best Supporting Actor and Best Picture. And the soundtrack was pretty awesome as well.

Black Swan

I watched it yesterday.Today I spent 2 hours watching certain scenes and reading script,in an attempt to justify my suspicion about Nina imagining Lily.
I googled about it but couldnt find anything so I expect some help/feedback from The Lounge.

Scenes/moments that confirm my suspicion:

1.After seeing her blurred,dark reflection in the subway,Nina sees the back of a person in a black coat.That person is not Lily-its Nina(or her dark side).Pause the movie so you can see Portman's face.
2.Lily enters the dressing room,says something(not in the script) to the girls and there is no reaction(yes,girls turned when she entered but it could be because of the noise in the hole and then Nina's halucination takes over)
3.Rehearsal scene soon after:Thomas:...''But which of you can embody both swans? The white and the black?''Right after that line we see a short shot of a Thomas's reflection,split in 2 mirrors(suggesting split personality or ''dissociative identity disorder'' of Nina to come?).In Wikipedia article about this disorder,it says that many ppl suffering from it were sexualy abused as a child.Hints about sexual abuse of Nina:Nina's mom offering Nina to lick cream from her finger in an unpleasent manner.Nina blocking the door in few occasions in a manner that suggest fear from mom.And finally,scene where Lily is going down on Nina where we can see face of someone else on Lily for a split second...pause that scene and look that face-Actress playing Nina's mom made to look younger?Now read the next part of the script:
[Erica tries to enter Nina's room but the door won't open as Nina has placed a piece of wood between her wall and door]
Nina Sayers: Don't come in here!
Erica Sayers: What's this?
Nina Sayers: It's called privacy! I'm not twelve anymore!(was abused when she was 12?)
Erica Sayers: You're not my Nina right now!
Nina Sayers: Leave me alone!
4.Nina is trying to dance for black swan,Thomas is yelling/puting pressure on her.As she is spinning we are looking at Thomas's face from Nina's eyes.We see it in brief after each of Nina's rotation.NOW,look at the last shot of Thomas's face-Its going down in a strange manner(NINA HAS FAINTED-but we dont see it because halucination continued where reality stoped)Lily enters and Thomas says:''Well,good of you to join us''(he is speaking to Nina who woke.)HA!
5.Lily and Nina alone in the dancing hall.Lily lights a ciggarete.
Nina Sayers: You can't smoke in here.
Lily: Well, I won't tell if you won't.(Well DUUH,you are living in Nina's head )
Near the end of the movie,Nina returns the stuff that she stoled to Beth(Last thing she puts on the table is a pack of ciggarets
6.Nina and Erica are talking and the talk is becoming unpleasent.They hear a doorbell and Erica opens.She returns after few second and says that its nobody.Nina opens again and starts imagining Lily.Notice how mom doesnt talk to Lily and is acting like there is nobody there.(Someone actually rang and exchanged few sentence with Erica then left.It was a mistake so she says''nobody'')So Nina goes to town with her imagined friend.I am having hard time explaining to myself the interaction between Nina,Liliy and two guys in town...I have idea but this post is geting to long so I leave it to The Lounge
7.Guys in the club ask the girls:Tom: So you two sisters?
[at the same time]
Lily: Yes.
Nina Sayers: No.(Me:hmmmm)
Lily: Blood sisters.(Me:hmmmmmmm)
Nina Sayers: We dance in the same company.(Me:ahhhh WTF,for ***** sake,I will figure this out with the help of The Lounge)

I think there is no need to write about scenes that are hard to support my theory.(Luckily,there are few of them)You watch it again,pay atention and help me and yourself to figure this out,pretty please with chery on top.

Edit:Scene where Nina and Lily are back in Nina's place after night out.Erica is awake and starts to question Nina about her night out.NOTICE the interesting shot of Nina and Lily SPLITTING then mom asks:
Erica Sayers: Where have you been?
Nina Sayers: To the moon and back.(we see Lily as she whispers ''...and back'' in the same time while Nina is answering to mom...conclude for yourself ppl heh.Also,mom seems oblivious to the presence of Lily...strange?-VERY.

hey lurker, there is some discussion in OOT about the movie in general, and her perhaps imagining Lily...i think consensus was that lily is real, but they never had sex...

i think the thread is called something like "in this movie natalie portman and mila kunis have sex..."

cool thirddan,I posted it overthere also.

I agree with most of what you say, but you're overlooking the fact that the Barnes is in a residential neighborhood and the neighbors didn't like so many people coming in and out already. They would probably put up a stink. That's at least one logical reason.

interesting take Lurker #1.....the part when Lily walked into the dressing room and said something but no one really reacted was the one part when I watched it the first time through had me thinking a little. I just watched it a couple days ago so I'll need to go through again and pay attention a little more. Good post though. Got me thinking a bit.

Ty Gandolfandiari...I have a hard time with some parts,for example:Thomas Leroy: What' going on?
Nina Sayers: Lily. You made her my alternate.
Thomas Leroy: Well, there's always an alternate. Lily's the best choice.
Nina Sayers: No, but she wants my role.
Thomas Leroy: Every dancer in the world wants your role.
Nina Sayers: No, this is different. She's after me. She's trying to replace me.
Thomas Leroy: Nobody's after you.
Nina Sayers: No, please believe me!
[Nina begins to cry]
Thomas Leroy: Hey, shh-shh-shh. I know it's been a struggle. But you just had a break through this morning. Tomorrow's yours, just give a great performance and you won't have to worry about Lily or anybody else. Now, go home and rest.

Hint is in the bolded parts.Nina is talking about Lily but Thomas is not.

''No,please belive me!''(that there is Lily)
''I know its been a struggle''-Its posisible that Thomas is aware of Nina's illnes.
''break through this morning''-Erica called to let him know that Nina is sick but she decided to show up and fight with her illness (definition of break through-''An act of overcoming or penetrating an obstacle or restriction'')

''Lily or anybody else''(maybe Lily isnt Nina's first imaginery friend/alter ego

this is the best explanation I can offer/think of.

if there was no Lily wouldn't he just be like "wtf is lily?"

Agree with 3D. I like the idea of Lily being a delusion, but it seems too forced a perspective given the seeming conspiracy to support Nina's delusions that would have to be present for that perspective to work.

I actually missed his mentioning of Lily,my bad.Maybe he is aware of her problem so he's playing along...dont know,this is one of those parts I am having trouble with.

When I'm looking at my huge post above it doesnt seem too forced to me.If somebody at all is playing along its Thomas(in one line)so I wouldn call that a conspiracy.

Edit:if you watch it again,there is no chance you will miss things I have mentioned.But again,I cant be sure because of a few trouble parts...but then again,if there aren't for those parts,it would be to obvious and we wouldnt have this discusion

Hackman v Denzel in Crimson Tide is one of my favorite movie showdowns ever. Such elite acting, and the story is up to the task too. It's an intense submarine thriller. Maybe not THE best submarine movie but in the conversation. I've seen it like 15 times, just so damned entertaining.

I just saw Roman Holiday for the first time. Loved it. God Audrey Hepburn was gorgeous.