I'd do a live WW but would probably be terrible at it.

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I very much liked not revealing cause of death in the 2009 Anniversary game and thought it added an interesting element of analysis.

If it seems that way, why would I still do it?

Being mislynched as villager does not contribute as much to a team loss in a village game, as being correctly lynched as wolf in a wolf game does.

I can still win if I die and flip villager if I make correct reads on wolves and people follow through

Case in point lynch UncleD in the musketeers game not followed up on but if it had been, strong chance village wins.

However, in most games I've played, mafia teams are 3 members or less. Being lynched there is much more likely to cause a loss.

I am aware my methods are different from the norm here. But that does not ipso facto make them stupid.

Bussing all your wolf teammates also seems pretty stupid yet it wins games.

leo lost us that game

Let's learn from his epic failures.

Maybe its not so much stupid as it is unexpected.

If things don't turn out the way your opponents expect, you can win more games.

What if I pushed UncleDynamite before I pushed Ashington?

No lynches never survives f3.

It could be argued that it is my fault for chasing Ashington first.

One switch and village wins. Can't blame Leo for everything.

I will say that Leo and others never follow me on lynching UncleDynamite. But hey, whatever.

wow this is horrific

If you are an obvious villager when you are one and an obvious wolf when you are one means you are lacking some necessary ww skills to be a good overall player

But maybe you just want to be a good villager.

what up with the mishmash fatigue?

MtG II with 42 players was below all expectations. TBATM mishmash is barely half full. SE isn't running games anymore.

This is a settled thing, your village game supports your wolf game by making it more expensive to lynch you. When you're a wolf all you need to do is live up to the standard that is applied to you as a villager. Since no one is good enough for that standard to be too detrimental to their team as a wolf - since everyone is wrong a lot as a villager - there's no reason to dilute your village game.

In fact, the better your village game the better your wolf game unless you are one of the subset of players who "cannot lie" or "hate wolfing" or find it stressful, which reduces post quality and quantity.

This is why the "you don't have to lie" to wolf well thing is accurate. You point out wolfy things that are wolfy. That's not a lie, it's just mechanical WW. You happen to know you are wrong this time when you are wolfing and pushing a villager, but that just means you're lying about what the player is likely to flip, but not about why you "think" they are likely to flip wolf.

Same as you would do as a villager.

That's like 60% of the playbook.

soah wtf you just embarrassed us

LolSoah

lol, as an aside, soah just mislynched luckay at F4 to lose the game

but it wasn't his fault, it was the fault of some clown named Sheth who was the village vigilante and completely trolled the game every day and forced soah to have to vote luckay because he stone cold refused to vote the last mafia

Can't he make it a 2/2 flip?

pretty sure that's still a mafia win?

He busses me with you and then he nightkills you.

Past several villager games I either:

Got murdered right away as vanilla (good for village)
Lynched 2/3 scums and voted scums 4/5 rounds in one game, did not mislynch seer
Spared masons from being lynched when not murdered, lynched a scum and shook loose the deep wolf, 1 vote away from lynching him, had final wolf as f3 must lynch all game
Assisted with lynching more than one wolf in both turbos.

My village game seems pretty okay to me
My wolf game is (latest mini turbo with seer excluded) devastating

I understand people want their villager games to be optimal at the expense of their wolf games, I don't, and it works very well for me.

I can be different and it be an okay thing. I would never have been invited to this site for the mafia champions invitational if I was a suck out loud player, no offense intended to those trying to give me advice.

I dunno these rules are complicated

LOL if village doesn't lynch guy who lynches 5 wolves in a 10,000 post game and makes it to f3.

Besides, he deserves to win for picking that strategy because giganticballs.

Kaepernick vs the Packers: 27/39, 412 Pass Yards, 3 TD, 0 Int, 22 Rush Yards, Win

Kaepernick since Leo made him his avatar: 26/55, 277 Pass Yards, 0 TD, 4 Int, 107 Rush Yards, 0 Wins, 2 Losses.


Coincidence?

Hey, lol for lynching ihcjay anyway

Well played

Nah leo has some kind of suck black hole effect.

valid point

By botching up the NK's on the first two days, we also killed the villagers who were having a good game (Aksdal and SIU).
Of course, if I die before must lynch, the last wolf has to kill 2 unclears (and not one) so it's harder for NL to explain why the hell is he still alive, but he probably wins all the same.

And first, of course, you still have to lynch me. Which is more difficult if you push me before Ashy, bc there are too many wolfy villagers still alive.