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04-26-2015 , 12:32 PM
Had an interesting situation after the hand above two young Asian women arrive at the table together. One sits to my immediate right with a $200 stack the other is two to my left and buys in full. They don't do anything remarkable for about two orbits then this occurs; short stack limps I raise to $25, other women calls and then short stack 3 bets to $90 with $105 behind. Other woman has $500 or so. Should I be concerned? I was the big stack by far and the only obvious tourist.
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04-26-2015 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
Patience and perspicacity imo.
5 Ps of poker:

Penetrating vision
Putting up with dickbags
Persuading yourself you're enjoying yourself
Playing hammered
Palming aces

And of course, the sixth p of online play, pissing in a bottle.
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04-26-2015 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
I don't hate it but I don't love it either. You can't get away with doing it every time obviously, probably not even 50% of the time. I'm honestly not even really sure what your image is in these games as you talk about playing so tight yet seemingly every hand you post here involves you getting out of line somehow. I feel like I probably miss opportunities to bluff in these types of spots where I get two weak calls, as it seems like I don't get paid off too much when I actually have a hand and bet.

I would have threebet preflop.
were you the one saying how you almost never 3bet a good player who raises utg? i thought we weren't supposed to 3bet utg raises light.

my image is pretty laggy. i post the more interesting hands. i don't post the ones where i make nitty folds.
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04-26-2015 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
i was in the straddle(20) with AcJc. utg is super lag, very good. he makes it 60. folds to the button who calls. button is passive, not very good. i call.

pot is 190 flop is T83r
checks around

turn is T(no club draw)
i bet 100???
they both call

pot is 490
river is a 4
i bet 300???


results utg snap called me with AQ. button folded. people were worried he saw my cards. i don't think he did though. it's possible, but i'm pretty paranoid about that kind of thing. and he is the kind of player to make that call. i just didn't think he would
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04-26-2015 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
were you the one saying how you almost never 3bet a good player who raises utg? i thought we weren't supposed to 3bet utg raises light.

my image is pretty laggy. i post the more interesting hands. i don't post the ones where i make nitty folds.
Post a couple of those so we don't think you're completely insane...with all due respect.
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04-26-2015 , 01:51 PM
from my last session. 3 handed im in the bb with J3o. button limps. sb calls. i check.

pot is 60
flop is J62 with two hearts.
sb bets 60
i fold

top pair 3 handed is a big hand. but sb never plays preflop without something. he never bets into two people without something. button loves to raise post flop. sb bets smaller with a heart draw
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04-26-2015 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
were you the one saying how you almost never 3bet a good player who raises utg? i thought we weren't supposed to 3bet utg raises light.

my image is pretty laggy. i post the more interesting hands. i don't post the ones where i make nitty folds.
I would never say something like that.

And if your image is laggy then I don't like bluffing into two players who almost certainly have showdown value when you are essentially representing nothing.
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04-26-2015 , 02:02 PM
i think it was a bad hand by me. it was pretty gross how he snap called with AQ

someone said something like "i don't even know if have 3bet range to an utg raise from a good player". i thought you agreed if you weren't the one who posted it yourself.

anyway, i'm pretty hesitant about 3betting utg raiser.
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04-26-2015 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
i think it was a bad hand by me. it was pretty gross how he snap called with AQ.
Just adjust and value bet super thin against him in the future
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04-26-2015 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
Are you guys in AC? I'm at Borgata all weekend.
you don't respond to your inbox messages *******!
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04-26-2015 , 04:14 PM
limps to me on button i raise Q9dd get 3 calls flop JT8dd!!!!

checks to me i bet 90 bb makes it 200 playing over 1k. i make it 400 lol he tank folds and claims aces

hot damn
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04-26-2015 , 04:21 PM
so how'd you like parx?
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04-26-2015 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
so how'd you like parx?
In terms of niceness, it is a big step below the borg. The games were so-so, I think the borg tourney series sucked a lot of players away.

They give a pretty fair amount back with their high hand thing though. I'm not sure what the borg's max rake is, but it's $5 at the parx, plus $1 bad beat; that seems really high for the 1/2 game but I guess it is standard.

Bah, this happened as I am typing...
888 Poker - $9.25+$0.75|50/100 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 53.25 BB
MP+1: 55.95 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 85.05 BB (VPIP: 23.18, PFR: 18.26, 3Bet Preflop: 10.91, Hands: 399)
BTN: 63.42 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
SB: 47.75 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 50.7 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: 45.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG+1: 46.25 BB (VPIP: 20.17, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 13.16, Hands: 119)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8 4 5
BB checks, Hero bets 3.25 BB, BB raises to 6.5 BB, Hero raises to 26 BB, BB raises to 47.7 BB, Hero calls 21.7 BB

Turn: (101.9 BB, 2 players) Q

River: (101.9 BB, 2 players) Q

Hero shows 4 5 (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)
(Pre 22%, Flop 74%, Turn 82%)
BB shows T T (Two Pair, Queens and Tens)
(Pre 78%, Flop 26%, Turn 18%)
BB wins 101.9 BB


I mean it's just a $10 MTT I am playing while playing a bigger MTT on party, but le sigh.

The general atmosphere at the parx was much more laid back, is my impression. Also, it is 35 min away from my house instead of over an hour away, so that's nice. Not sure I am ready to carve out a live roll and start playing live though. I was really ****ing card dead for the 10+ hours I was at the tables, and that was just hell. If I knew how to lag it up effectively live (I'm not sure that is really even possible with the rake being what it is).

Q: $50 buy in MTT, standard?
partypoker - $50+$0|150/300 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 49.39 BB (VPIP: 61.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 18)
UTG+1: 65.48 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP: 72.42 BB (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 13.48, 3Bet Preflop: 1.89, Hands: 149)
MP+1: 69.93 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+2: 106.25 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (CO): 52.4 BB
BTN: 87.93 BB (VPIP: 5.56, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
SB: 24.18 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 9.65, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 123)
BB: 71.93 BB (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 15.53, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 109)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (10.4 BB, 2 players) J Q 6
BB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, BB calls 7 BB

Turn: (24.4 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 14 BB, fold

Hero wins 38.4 BB

just got sat a HU hyper, gotta focus...
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04-26-2015 , 05:51 PM
Played this hand at Aria today. Villain has around 700 and I cover. V straddles $10, he has straddled every time and defends aggressively. I have AKo in CO a few limps and I just call since they just called the PLO game and I am leaving after the hand. V makes it $65 and it folds to me so **** it I make $265. He tanks and calls. Flop is 772 two of a suit. He checks and I shove. He tanks and after a couple of minutes I ask the dealer to get me some racks as I'm leaving. He tanks a couple more minutes then calls. Turn and river are Q and J. I say nothing and flip over my hand, he shows AT and mhig.
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04-26-2015 , 06:03 PM
I prefer checking there and then calling his inevitable turn shove. You're never folding out better hands on that flop.
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04-26-2015 , 07:47 PM
I think I botched this hand. I have about a full buyin ($300) V1 has been destroying the table. He's just hitting everything which is making him really sticky. He obviously has me covered. V2 is unknown - just sat down with about $80. I have KK utg and bet $10 2 calls.

Flop is 39T rainbow. I lead with $25, v1 calls, v2 shoves. I'm pretty sure I should be shoving here, right? Is this ever a flat call?
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04-26-2015 , 07:57 PM
You can def pretend mini-tank and flat call there imo
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04-26-2015 , 08:07 PM
Played some 2/5 at Fallsview last night, pick up KK in the hijack, 2 limps, I make it 35, button calls and one of the limpers calls.

Flop is KQ7dd, limp/caller checks, I check (button was an old Russian guy who was super aggro and bet everything) and sure enough he makes it 65, other dude calls. Stack sizes are me: ~500 behind, button: ~400 behind, guy who limped and called 2 streets: ~850 behind. What raise size do you guys like here?

I ended up raising to 185, button ships, and other guy calls, and I reship obv, and other guy calls. Russian guy tables K9dd, good guy doesn't show, and I show my kings. Turn is a diamond, river bricks and the Russian guy scoops. The other guy, who i thought was solid, ended up calling with AQ (ace of diamonds).

Annoying but what can you do. If both would've just flatted I doubt i wouldve been able to get away from it at turn and stationed away my stack, anyways comments on flop raise size (I dont play a lot of live hold'em).

Table was pretty loose and a lot of raises pre were to ~30, lots of late position 3 bets too
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04-26-2015 , 08:11 PM
This is another hand I had with the same villain earlier. He raises to $8 utg and I call with TT. Flop is J55. Villain leads with $20 and I raise to $45. Villain calls. Turn is a blank and villain checks. I'm sort of lost here. I'm pretty sure I should have fired another round but I checked it back. Thoughts?
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04-26-2015 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
This is another hand I had with the same villain earlier. He raises to $8 utg and I call with TT. Flop is J55. Villain leads with $20 and I raise to $45. Villain calls. Turn is a blank and villain checks. I'm sort of lost here. I'm pretty sure I should have fired another round but I checked it back. Thoughts?
What were stack sizes, and flush draw on flop? If I raise flop I'd usually fire fairly decently on turn, like 60-80 and try and get the guy off his Jx. If he flats and checks river then that spot would be annoying, and depending again on villain and your table image either check or shove
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04-26-2015 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HUstylez
What were stack sizes, and flush draw on flop? If I raise flop I'd usually fire fairly decently on turn, like 60-80 and try and get the guy off his Jx. If he flats and checks river then that spot would be annoying, and depending again on villain and your table image either check or shove
No flush draw on flop. This was a bit before the previous hand I posted. I had almost a full stack (300) and he had me covered.
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04-26-2015 , 09:01 PM
why did you raise the flop?
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04-26-2015 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
why did you raise the flop?
It smelled like a standard continuation bet to get me to fold and I thought raising was better than flatting.

Last edited by biggerboat; 04-26-2015 at 09:05 PM. Reason: And I thought I was ahead
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04-26-2015 , 09:29 PM
i should raise more flops in position

see free rivers and control action!
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04-26-2015 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
i should raise more flops in position

see free rivers and control action!
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