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06-07-2012 , 11:28 AM

#2251

TheDean1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLady

you didn't have a mother?

I have seen plenty of men go bat **** crazy. Also many women.

The whole "omg women are totally emotional pieces of human" is really invalid as an argument.

Yes I had a mother.

She was often a plesant woman, but on occasion would have a fit of bat**** craziness. Never saw this from my pops.

eta- your current level of madness only goes to prove that your estrogen is precluding you from acting logical in this moment in time

06-07-2012 , 11:29 AM

#2252

TimeLady

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDean1

Yes I had a mother.

She was often a plesant woman, but on occasion would have a fit of bat**** craziness. Never saw this from my pops.

your sample size is huge

06-07-2012 , 11:30 AM

#2253

kokiri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDean1

**** if I know, I've never lived with estrogen. I do feel that I have seen women lose their **** emotionally quite a bit more often than I've seen it from men.

Remember that in this conversation the issue at hand is CORRELATIONS not hard and fast rules. Do not confuse "men tend to be more logical than women" with "all men are more logical than all women."

you know that you have estrogen in you, right?

also, like i say, i regard men fighting as 'losing their **** emotionally', and once you factor that in, i think it's a wash

06-07-2012 , 11:30 AM

#2254

TimeLady

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weeeeeeeeee errani

06-07-2012 , 11:31 AM

#2255

TimeLady

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kokiri

you know that you have estrogen in you, right?

also, like i say, i regard men fighting as 'losing their **** emotionally', and once you factor that in, i think it's a wash

especially since a big side effect of testosterone is Competativeness, which whilst in some ways a really good thing to have, also leads to fist exchanging and other shows of dominance

06-07-2012 , 11:32 AM

#2256

biggerboat

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Judging from some of the ww post-game discussions I would say that estrogen levels are pretty high around here.

06-07-2012 , 11:33 AM

#2257

TimeLady

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biggerboat

Judging from some of the ww post-game discussions I would say that estrogen levels are pretty high around here.

06-07-2012 , 11:33 AM

#2258

Swiitch

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Originally Posted by amplify

we are talking about the history of the world, there is no "educational system" which has spanned every society, every continent, every era of history. perhaps you want to argue that patriarchal oppression has rendered otherwise fine female mathematical minds useless.

what about composers? name some great female ones. where does the blame lie?

again - all the great female composers were being shoved back into the kitchen to pop out a few more.

You're talking the historical world here, where women in many societies were treated as little better than livestock, and in some societies worse, and you're asking why they didn't do great things?

06-07-2012 , 11:35 AM

#2259

TheDean1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLady

your sample size is huge

Uh well I'm basing my argument on more than that, was merely addressing your particular inquiry about my mom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokiri

you know that you have estrogen in you, right?

also, like i say, i regard men fighting as 'losing their **** emotionally', and once you factor that in, i think it's a wash

Yeah, but the testosterone is quite a bit more dominant within me.

That's fine if you think that. Like I said I won't object if you insist that I'm wrong, I was just sharing my pre-existing perceptions which may or may not be correct. Contrary to common belief, I don't actually believe that I do know everything.

06-07-2012 , 11:37 AM

#2260

wahoopride

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about half the women I work with have intermittent emotional breakdowns.

06-07-2012 , 11:37 AM

#2261

Willi

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IMO Pog men get super tempered too and it is just the nature of game. Nothing wrong with POG women IMO.

06-07-2012 , 11:38 AM

#2262

Swiitch

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biggerboat

How did we get away from how ugly lebron is?

we went over it, he is a less masculine looking version of hell boy.

now, we are discussing why women had trouble climbing out of the kitchen in the historical world, when men ruled everything and women were shut out of everything except popping out kids and cooking.

we may as well be talking about how blacks are less intelligent than whites, because name one great black in the field of xyz from antiquity.

06-07-2012 , 11:39 AM

#2263

TimeLady

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDean1

Uh well I'm basing my argument on more than that, was merely addressing your particular inquiry about my mom.

Yeah, but the testosterone is quite a bit more dominant within me.

That's fine if you think that. Like I said I won't object if you insist that I'm wrong, I was just sharing my pre-existing perceptions which may or may not be correct. Contrary to common belief, I don't actually believe that I do know everything.

You seem to have some really bad underlying assumptions. For you, at least. I'd think you'd be a little more sensible than assuming bad science

06-07-2012 , 11:40 AM

#2264

Swiitch

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Originally Posted by wahoopride

about half the women I work with have intermittent emotional breakdowns.

men have emotional breakdowns too, but we just go out and beat **** up, and people think it's ok

when a woman has one, it's because it's aunt flo is visiting.

06-07-2012 , 11:41 AM

#2265

pwnsall

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDean1

I don't think so. At least for me I do feel emotions, but it's never so overwhelming such that I can't tell them to STFU for a bit.

unless you're drinking

06-07-2012 , 11:43 AM

#2266

amplify

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiitch

You're talking the historical world here, where women in many societies were treated as little better than livestock, and in some societies worse, and you're asking why they didn't do great things?

they did do great things. women are great novelists, scientists, military and state leaders, etc etc etc - just not mathematicians.

06-07-2012 , 11:44 AM

#2267

pwnsall

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emotions are evolutionary i assume so they must have a purpose, occams razor and all that

being logical isn't always logical

06-07-2012 , 11:45 AM

#2268

McAvoy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bsball8806

Also if POG is at all representative of the male population as a whole, we'd have some big problems too.

Think makes me wonder where the Pog birth rate is compared to the developed world as a hole.

06-07-2012 , 11:45 AM

#2269

pwnsall

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i suppose being rational isn't always logical would be more correct but doesn't sound as good

06-07-2012 , 11:46 AM

#2270

TimeLady

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Quote:

Originally Posted by amplify

they did do great things. women are great novelists, scientists, military and state leaders, etc etc etc - just not mathematicians.

just because you say so?

I don't understand how women can be terrible at mathematics but awesome at everything else. Especially since you argue they can be good at science. Most of science requires a fairly in depth knowledge of mathematics, it's not common that you can have one without the other.

06-07-2012 , 11:47 AM

#2271

kioshk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnsall

emotions are evolutionary i assume so they must have a purpose, occams razor and all that

being logical isn't always logical

evolutionary biology people believe that depression genes were advantageous. A sad caveman doesn't go out and get eaten.

06-07-2012 , 11:47 AM

#2272

TimeLady

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnsall

emotions are evolutionary i assume so they must have a purpose, occams razor and all that

being logical isn't always logical

emotions make a lot of evolutionary sense. most of what estrogen makes women do is want to have BABIES BABIES BABIES BABIES

06-07-2012 , 11:48 AM

#2273

Swiitch

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Quote:

Originally Posted by amplify

they did do great things. women are great novelists, scientists, military and state leaders, etc etc etc - just not mathematicians.

Give it a few years and I am sure you'll have some great female mathematicians, as well.

If you're talking historically, then the trend of great women novelists is less than 200 years old, scientists slightly more than 100, military even less and state leaders probably even less.

Unless you're talking about monarchies, then yes, women have been great monarchs, when a man wasn't in line for the throne ahead of them, that is.

06-07-2012 , 11:50 AM

#2274

pwnsall

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and sports fandom is anything but rational

06-07-2012 , 11:51 AM

#2275

Krayz

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Reading 20 pages of phone posts of sexism in the pub this morning kind of makes me nauseous

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