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06-30-2021 , 10:53 AM

#9576

Comrade_Pupper

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Originally Posted by A missread issue

I disagree, though maybe including your post was in the set was unwarranted. Sun's definitely fits the making fun part and crossnerd's fits the belittling part. I think both of the underlined are really offensive.

ok

well I am not going to speak to what other posters said or did, but I think I was nothing but respectful to UD, and that we just happened to disagree.

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06-30-2021 , 10:54 AM

#9577

Comrade_Pupper

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Originally Posted by A missread issue

According to WHO?

just my impression

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06-30-2021 , 10:59 AM

#9578

DonkDonkDonkDonk

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

in other news I would say we are 1-3 decades away from total climate deterioration

That may be optimistic

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06-30-2021 , 11:00 AM

#9579

Comrade_Pupper

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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk

That may be optimistic

yeah, probably

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06-30-2021 , 11:10 AM

#9580

A missread issue

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Many species other than human will suffer way worse in that span. I don't recall the percentage exactly, but there was a huge wall of text in some zoo I visited explaining why some percentage of animals and plants would be extinct by 2050 or around that. It's pretty sad.

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06-30-2021 , 11:16 AM

#9581

Deli_

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Is it ethical to reproduce in the era of climate change? Do ethics even matter anymore? WILL ethics matter anymore?

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06-30-2021 , 11:18 AM

#9582

A missread issue

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16 to 55 % of the plants and animals extinct by 2070 apparently according to:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/21/w...rnd/index.html

Where they're quoting this study:

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/8/4211

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06-30-2021 , 11:18 AM

#9583

pwnsall

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Ethics are a social construct.

Serious answer, it's probably not significantly less ethical than otherwise. I know some antinatalist who argued antinatalist should have kids so they can teach them antinatalism.

How old were people when first taught about global warming? I feel like it was 3rd or 4th grade but I may be confusing with ozone.

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06-30-2021 , 11:27 AM

#9584

Sun Tzu

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

AMI, the accusation you made is a pretty serious one and none of the posts you quoted seem to substantiate it.

Like MAYBE the one sun said was bit off color but neither of the posts by cn or I that you quoted remotely rise to the level of the accusation you made.

I am not even sure the issue you have with what I said—there was no intended humor in that post. I was refuting an actual thing UD said—he claimed I was defending Stalin because I said the Holocaust was worse than anything Hitler did.

he has said that me mocking nazi apologia fully justifies wishing suffering and death on me, that ud did nothing wrong but maybe I should've been banned

why take anything he says seriously?

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06-30-2021 , 11:29 AM

#9585

A missread issue

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Originally Posted by Deli_

Is it ethical to reproduce in the era of climate change? Do ethics even matter anymore? WILL ethics matter anymore?

Which is your bigger concern there? Contributing to overpopulation or not wanting to bring a life to this world, who would suffer the consequences of the climate change?

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06-30-2021 , 11:29 AM

#9586

pwnsall

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Futurama episode where they drop ice cube in Ocean still in play

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06-30-2021 , 11:36 AM

#9587

Doctor Zeus

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And on its way!

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06-30-2021 , 11:37 AM

#9588

A missread issue

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

he has said that me mocking nazi apologia fully justifies wishing suffering and death on me, that ud did nothing wrong but maybe I should've been banned

why take anything he says seriously?

Except that's not what you were mocking, but you of course know that. I said his reaction was understandable, don't see how that's same as saying fully justified. And nowhere did I say UD did nothing wrong.

You also didn't bother to look up why he was offended and instead were taunting for him to find you proof, like he has the burden of proof there. It's on you. Why take anything I say seriously? I bother to look up things and not present my pointless opinions as facts like you do.

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06-30-2021 , 11:40 AM

#9589

Comrade_Pupper

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overpopulation isn't real

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06-30-2021 , 11:42 AM

#9590

Comrade_Pupper

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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus

And on its way!

I can't believe this is a thing

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06-30-2021 , 11:45 AM

#9591

Comrade_Pupper

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Figured this belonged in our discussion about people using what the read in the newspaper as evidence about DPRK...

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06-30-2021 , 11:45 AM

#9592

Doctor Zeus

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

I can't believe this is a thing

Its still in design stage so I wonder if it ever comes to fruition.

That cool teenager who's cleaning the oceans actually took theory to practice, and is a hero, but, this seems like a pipe dream.

Also, lol, its easier to constantly re-freeze the ocean than it is to just switch off a few lights, cycle more, destroy greed-driven capitalism, and eat local food.

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06-30-2021 , 11:46 AM

#9593

Comrade_Pupper

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literally "we just make stuff up"

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06-30-2021 , 11:47 AM

#9594

Comrade_Pupper

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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus

capitalism is a economic system that requires infinite growth

and we live in a finite environment

expect silliness like this to continue until either the economic system collapses or the environment does

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06-30-2021 , 11:47 AM

#9595

pwnsall

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Yeah I think it's like 98% not real.

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06-30-2021 , 11:51 AM

#9596

pwnsall

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

I can imagine in 1000 years someone saying "after we exaust the multiverse capitalism will finally collapse". Not sure who that's a point in "favor" towards.

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06-30-2021 , 11:56 AM

#9597

A missread issue

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

overpopulation isn't real

Not sure if serious. I would assume consumption grows as population grows, which then at least indirectly, contributes to the climate change. How large population do you think a communist Earth could sustain without affecting negatively to the climate?

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06-30-2021 , 11:57 AM

#9598

Deli_

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A missread issue

Which is your bigger concern there? Contributing to overpopulation or not wanting to bring a life to this world, who would suffer the consequences of the climate change?

Not wanting to bring someone into a dying world.

Overpopulation is a eugenicist myth.

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06-30-2021 , 11:58 AM

#9599

Deli_

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnsall

Futurama episode where they drop ice cube in Ocean still in play

Lmao

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06-30-2021 , 12:01 PM

#9600

pwnsall

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I know someone who doesn't want to have kids because passing on mental illness. Reasonable, eugenics propaganda, she doesn't want kids and using it to rationalize, something else.

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