i would almost guarantee that lousy exit polling had a lot to do with media bias in the questions, but i dont have evidence to support that

Sounds like standard marketing. Market your product in a way people who buy it would like others to see it but sell it in a way they'd like to consume it.

Also, why has noone mentioned the war activities in Syria yet?

ok let's try this question instead then dustin

is the media biased against republicans and biased for democrats?

The media is biased in favor of the establishment.

There is a much longer answer that I want to give but I'm going to leave it at this for now while I think about how I want to word what I actually want to say.


*I'm pretty sure that "lousy exit polling" is just an euphemism for voter fraud/tampering but I could be wrong

You think Bush's internal polling had a liberal bias?

im not aware of what bush's internal polling had

Well he did call Gore and concede at one point

because network polling said it was over maybe

i dont know why democrats have such a hard time admitting that there is bias

if a republican said fox news was fair and unbiased, i would laugh in their face too
i just get annoyed at how democrats dont admit the media is biased. went through this with madtown earlier, but he's an independent apparantly

http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp

Mets,

You know damned well that I'm not a democrat.

Mets, you know who owns the media, right?

I never said there wasn't any left leaning media bias - I just do not believe for one second that (just for example) CNN is as far left as Fox News is right. I'm pretty sure MSNBC made a conscious decision a while back to try to compete directly with Fox News in the "ideological news" game and that's fine - if you want intentionally ideological news you can watch those channels. I think that the difference between a network like CNN and a network like Fox News is intent. I think CNN tries to be an objective unbiased news source. I do not believe that about Fox News for a second. If I were being generous I would call it an overcorrection of a small amount of unintentional liberal bias with blatant intentional conservative bias.

i cant edit that post to make it wrap right im sorry

dustin -- you are not a democrat i never said you were. you just like to argue ldo

Ok. So the media is biased in favor of the establishment. That is the thesis (this is going to be stream of consciousness style so bear with me)

You're looking at things on the wrong level Mets. Real politics is about the establishment vs the anti-establishment, except that the anti-establishment doesn't really exist.

The establishment exists in both parties. What is the establishment? For our purposes here we can call it "big business" Big business also owns the media.

We'll stop here. I want to get your opinion on a couple things and then I'll continue

1) Do you believe that there is such a thing as "the establishment"?

2) If so, do you believe that it represents the interests of big business?

when McCain said, "That one"

was that racist? Cause CNN said it was, and im still trying to figure out why or how it was

it was a dumb thing to say. But racist? and people think it was because the media told them it was

How was that reported in the US?

I only really watch the lovely anchorwomen of CNBC in the morning so I can't help you.

here is a great little tool I just discovered
its a headline scanner
http://urbansurvival.com/newsscanner.htm

I didn't see that, I remember it being generally reported as being an Irish Catholic thing. I do remember several African American pundits saying that African Americans are often sensitive about statements like that which can be construed as demeaning because of the long history of intentionally demeaning African Americans in this country. Also I hate things like "CNN said it was" because it gives no information about whether a commentator (like Anderson Cooper) said it or whether one of their pundits (people who are announced as being either pro-dem or pro-rep) said it.

FWIW to directly answer you I don't believe for a second it was racial

Guess I'm the center.

i believe in reaganomics

i dont think the media is in favor of being biased to big business

and im not sure i believe in an "establish" the way you are describing it

sorry Jared.

I didn't mean to forget about you. You're careful enough with what you say to make your presence here a little less memorable

liberal bias in the media? pro-establishment bias? thoughts on the meaning of "the establishment", etc etc

Oh FWIW Dustin I disagree with most of what you said in your "establishment" post but I'm not really sure how to argue against it - I just don't think it's true?

but you admit that its owned by big business at least, right?

Is it that you don't think big business is behind both political parties?

both parties get plenty of money from big business of course

but the parties main purposes arent to serve big business

who do they serve then?

(please don't say the people please don't say the peopleplease don't say the peopleplease don't say the peopleplease don't say the peopleplease don't say the peopleplease don't say the people)

I assume that what you're going to say is special interest groups?