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Other than Well Named, who else are we about to "permanently" ban? Other than Well Named, who else are we about to "permanently" ban?

07-03-2014 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by younguns87
Pretty sure the reason he got banned originally was not solely because of non-participation.

Did he give a reason why he didn't post?

Is there a reason bolded is wrong to think? When has a perma ban ever been permanent on this site? We just unbanned the biggest trouble maker on POG for gods know what reason. Did monkey bananas Previous permaban get lifted before he came back? I honestly don't know the answer to that question, I'm not even sure it was a perma but He was fine when he came back.
There have been several poggers that were banned and are unlikely to ever come back. And those tend to be the ones who screwed up games.

MB may have been banned at his own request. I don't remember for sure. But it was not a POG ban.

Jenn was banned as much for being a nuisance to the mods as for anything else, so that's not really comparable to anything.

Several other people were "perma" banned mostly because they wanted it and not because they really did anything particularly awful -- McAvoy (the first time) and gder.

HiFi was unstable and needed a break and that ban was never intended to be permanent.

Who else was there? I'm pretty sure that no one was banned for game-related reasons and later allowed to return.
07-03-2014 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by younguns87
No. People were being bitches to him so he left as I understand it.
Damn. MB was an asset.
07-03-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaronk56's Son
Why not find another community? Why do you so badly want to play with the people in this thread?
Prolly cuz you guys are the illest.
07-03-2014 , 12:11 AM
lol let the kid play, can't you see he was just missing you all.

Also lol at POG and murders comparison.

07-03-2014 , 12:11 AM
I feel like MB left because of me at least in part but I didn't do it on purpose!
07-03-2014 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Not saying I am in the right, but what would others do if they were banned from 2+2 with no chance of being allowed back?

Honest question, so please do not answer with things like "not get banned in the first place"
Not post here ever again, would have no problem having the self-respect not to weasel my way back. Just posting this question and implying there's another reasonable option makes you an automatic weirdo in my eyes.
07-03-2014 , 12:11 AM
Tough spot to be honest. I could see this going either way. What are the current odds?
07-03-2014 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Unfortunately I can't remember what happened to cause me to miss a day in that game.

What I can tell you is it was not done on purpose. If I could have posted I would have.

Also I was not banned for non participation in werewolf games. I was banned for multiple different events that had negative effects on games.

If we are going to make statements lets stick to the facts please.
I'm counting outing yourself as a wolf in-thread under the general umbrella of non-participation.
07-03-2014 , 12:12 AM
Thread needs a (public) poll now, make it happen, wn.

edit: also rename to grievances thread 2.0
07-03-2014 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
diceman: the correct response is to either keep trying to plead your case, or try to understand the reason why you got denied and figure out what you need to respond to, or even to appeal to ATF or Mat Sklansky

It really shouldn't be to just do what you want, although to be fair I'll say that there is some precedent elsewhere on 2+2 for banned posters coming back on new accounts, going UTR, and being left alone when they are rediscovered because it's obvious they no longer are a problem

So I have less of a law and order attitude towards it than (for example) dwetzel, but it's still pretty clearly the case that your attitude towards being denied was "**** you I'll do what I want", and it should be obvious why that would rub people the wrong way
I could see from the response when I tried to come back after being banned that some people were always going to kick up a fuss and it was not going to happen.

At some point either before or after that I did contact Matt and he told me I had to take it up with the forum mods responsible.

Felt like I used all the possible options I could.

Still not saying it is right, just did not know what else to do.
07-03-2014 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
Speaking of MB. Where has he been? Is he banned too?
He lobbied for himself to get made a mod, was passed over, and hasn't posted since.

His final post is 2 days after the new mods were picked, finishing up one of his games.
07-03-2014 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
in fact I did

I'm kinda baffled at the "sure, that's also bad, but let him back anyway" mentality, but obviously this is one of those things where we're all gonna yammer and nobody's mind is really going to be changed so it is what it is

I personally would prefer not to have to deal with trying to avoid playing with someone that has a track record of having a significant chance of screwing up a game through malice and then not giving a single **** about having done so, but YMMV
Have you been in a single game ruined by thediceman? I would like to think that speaks more than events that are over 2 years old.
07-03-2014 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
Or maybe it was BWG. Can't remember
I can promise you that your recollection is almost certainly pristine.
07-03-2014 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
I get that most people would not have got themselves banned in the first place. Just genuinely interested to hear what people would have done in if they were in my situation.
As I said I would tuck my tail between my legs and gtfo. Not going to play somewhere I wasn't wanted.
07-03-2014 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Still not saying it is right, just did not know what else to do.
That you don't even consider "stay away" or "wait longer" as options to be considered is a sign that you really haven't changed much.
07-03-2014 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
He lobbied for himself to get made a mod, was passed over, and hasn't posted since.

His final post is 2 days after the new mods were picked, finishing up one of his games.
Sounds like he was pouring his heart and soul into the campaign and when it didn't work out he went off the deep end to me. God bless his heart.
07-03-2014 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Not saying I am in the right, but what would others do if they were banned from 2+2 with no chance of being allowed back?

Honest question, so please do not answer with things like "not get banned in the first place"
What most people do when they get banned from 2+2 with no chance of being allowed back is do something else for a while and then get unbanned and come back.
07-03-2014 , 12:17 AM
Diceman, is your name a reference to the fact that your coming back while permabanned was a roll of the dice?
07-03-2014 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaronk56's Son
Why not find another community? Why do you so badly want to play with the people in this thread?
Like I said, in my opinion this is the best place to play, other sites range from not the worst to just terrible. That may be down to me preferring vanilla and vanilla+ games though.

Most of the people that actually play werewolf regularly are not posting in this thread.
07-03-2014 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
That you don't even consider "stay away" or "wait longer" as options to be considered is a sign that you really haven't changed much.
You know is hard to stay away from werewolf?

Also



Spoiler:
but on bans topic if anybody then rawrs for provoking bwg should be temp'd
07-03-2014 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Have you been in a single game ruined by thediceman? I would like to think that speaks more than events that are over 2 years old.
Yeah but what you did was deceiving and I could see where the ppl who were wronged by you are upset. Therefore whatever happens, happens. I would just listen to WN's advice if I were you.
07-03-2014 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Like I said, in my opinion this is the best place to play.
we're trying to keep it that way
07-03-2014 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
What most people do when they get banned from 2+2 with no chance of being allowed back is do something else for a while and then get unbanned and come back.
I did something else for a while and was not allowed back.

How long does it take people to let back someone who ruined games they were in? A year seemed to not even be close in some peoples opinion.
07-03-2014 , 12:23 AM
I like how we're all acting like discussing this means anything when the truth is we're just waiting for Moocher to show up and decide.
07-03-2014 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
I'm counting outing yourself as a wolf in-thread under the general umbrella of non-participation.
That seems unreasonable.

      
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