#4 Game of Mafia Champions (WW Invitational) - Game Thread
05-08-2014
, 01:34 AM
05-08-2014
, 01:37 AM
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Phelanpt posts way too much. Principle of diminishing marginal returns is killing this thread and he's Example A. On the one hand nothing's pinged me scum but he's got, what, 300+ posts in just over two calendar days and I can't remember anything he said catching my attention. I should say null but the fact that I would say null about a guy with 300+ posts is not null, if that makes sense -- he should have been obviously town by now but he's not. Nothing stands out. Tone, content, only thing that stands out is frequency. Frequency is supposed to stand out as town but that's only if you look townie in the first place (it's harder to keep up a town facade with more posts). Null, but I want lower quantity, higher quality posting from him.
So far the only thing I have on Wombat that I remember catching my attention from my thinking today is that Guild was working to persuade Wombat to take his side in an argument with The Moocher, and on balance scum don't feel the need to recruit scum to their side in an argument, they can just ask for it in mafia chat and their teammate can chime in independently and look more proactive in the process. Town read.
Missing Person still looks terrible to me for being an irrational, easily-angered player. When he posts I get the feeling I'm being sold something, like his posts aren't genuine. One specific thing that I noticed today was that he said he was "just thinking" about the jcohen claim being fake, rating it as high as 30-40% possible (!). But then he turns around, says "oh no I was just idly pondering it" when questioned, and he rates jcohen as a top-5 town, but didn't clearly distinguish jcohen #1. The fact that jcohen wasn't far and away #1 indicates he's still giving us the appearance of seriously considering a fake, which (a) is more significant than he made it out to be when questioned, (b) more consistent with the initial estimation on which he quickly backtracked, and (c) is the exact thing I was worried about seeing when I made my posts about the claim at the end of d1. I'm worried that confirmation bias on my own intuition is making me read into him worse than I should be, or that maybe my read is informed by a different take on the game of mafia itself, but I can't shake the feeling that something is really wrong with what he's presenting. I don't know that I'd vote for him based off of that alone, but I do know I'd vote for him over Phelanpt; for my criticisms earlier of Phelanpt's play I still feel a lot more comfortable with his play over Phelanpt. Major scum read.
Shill isn't living up to his name.
He hasn't posted in 55 hours. I've got the most critical series of exams in my life and I've found a way to be 50% more active (in terms of posting) than him, and found a way to check in and at least try to stay abreast of events. If he's town, I don't realistically see how he's going to catch up. Outside of some serious unforeseen events IRL I scumread him, with this level of activity you can't afford to check out as town and so the fact that he has indicates he's scum.
sjg seems town to me, his style is similar to mine and his posts ring genuine to me. I don't understand why people are scumreading him over his "X people argued with Guild about Y read, therefore town" heuristic. It's not a be-all-end-all, but it's a good starting point and I'm sure sjg will adjust as events progress. He went back and actually did this analysis when most people have been content to ignore Guild's posts altogether unless it supports a point they were already wanting to make. I like him, he's town in my book.
Rokk I don't know yet, need to reread him. Didn't remember having a strong opinion about what I saw. Some people have been scumreading him so I know I need to reread before I talk about it, because I want to make sure I don't lazily skim with that thought that he's scum in mind. Null due to my lack of diligence in reading him to this point.
So far the only thing I have on Wombat that I remember catching my attention from my thinking today is that Guild was working to persuade Wombat to take his side in an argument with The Moocher, and on balance scum don't feel the need to recruit scum to their side in an argument, they can just ask for it in mafia chat and their teammate can chime in independently and look more proactive in the process. Town read.
Missing Person still looks terrible to me for being an irrational, easily-angered player. When he posts I get the feeling I'm being sold something, like his posts aren't genuine. One specific thing that I noticed today was that he said he was "just thinking" about the jcohen claim being fake, rating it as high as 30-40% possible (!). But then he turns around, says "oh no I was just idly pondering it" when questioned, and he rates jcohen as a top-5 town, but didn't clearly distinguish jcohen #1. The fact that jcohen wasn't far and away #1 indicates he's still giving us the appearance of seriously considering a fake, which (a) is more significant than he made it out to be when questioned, (b) more consistent with the initial estimation on which he quickly backtracked, and (c) is the exact thing I was worried about seeing when I made my posts about the claim at the end of d1. I'm worried that confirmation bias on my own intuition is making me read into him worse than I should be, or that maybe my read is informed by a different take on the game of mafia itself, but I can't shake the feeling that something is really wrong with what he's presenting. I don't know that I'd vote for him based off of that alone, but I do know I'd vote for him over Phelanpt; for my criticisms earlier of Phelanpt's play I still feel a lot more comfortable with his play over Phelanpt. Major scum read.
Shill isn't living up to his name.
He hasn't posted in 55 hours. I've got the most critical series of exams in my life and I've found a way to be 50% more active (in terms of posting) than him, and found a way to check in and at least try to stay abreast of events. If he's town, I don't realistically see how he's going to catch up. Outside of some serious unforeseen events IRL I scumread him, with this level of activity you can't afford to check out as town and so the fact that he has indicates he's scum.sjg seems town to me, his style is similar to mine and his posts ring genuine to me. I don't understand why people are scumreading him over his "X people argued with Guild about Y read, therefore town" heuristic. It's not a be-all-end-all, but it's a good starting point and I'm sure sjg will adjust as events progress. He went back and actually did this analysis when most people have been content to ignore Guild's posts altogether unless it supports a point they were already wanting to make. I like him, he's town in my book.
Rokk I don't know yet, need to reread him. Didn't remember having a strong opinion about what I saw. Some people have been scumreading him so I know I need to reread before I talk about it, because I want to make sure I don't lazily skim with that thought that he's scum in mind. Null due to my lack of diligence in reading him to this point.
just wish you had more posts like this
05-08-2014
, 01:49 AM
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, 01:53 AM
05-08-2014
, 01:55 AM