lol ok

It's pointless to even try to answer this. First of all, how am I supposed to know who my partners would be if I was a wolf? If that's just supposed to mean "who do you think are the wolves" then that's fine, but it's an entirely different question.

And the answer to that question is I think godkata and ellinika and I really have no idea on the third at this point. Gun to my head I would clear quoth and you and think it's more likely that atakpup is bussing then that pavel decided to open vote a wolf partner.

But that's my wolf reads knowing I'm not a wolf.

Besides that, it's basically impossible to know exactly how I'd play as a wolf, especially not given teammates, but I'll say my opinion would be that the wolves are clearly way in the lead and the correct way to play it is not to go for the hero sweep but to try to make sure there's enough separation between wolf teammates to have a good chance at f5 (and f3) if you dont' win right away. How exactly that would work out would depend on who the wolves were

pavel i have a really big issue here. i find u villagery in some ways, but i cant get over that u were the seer peek. ive re-read AAs posts many times and i just dont see how ure not it.

or I could be a villager who sees the same things quoth sees

that is acceptable for part of my question. u havent answered the part about what your strategy would be (as a wolf) to protect/go after ur wolf teammates at this point. How would you play this f7?

correct. but the difference is you are a not as clear as quoth. quoth is SHC cleared. you are not.

if you dont see it I cant do anything to change your mind. I have used every argument I have to prove that I wasnt peeked. You can reread them again and consider whether I would fight it or just try to lolcat and make the village waste a day. today would have been a perfect day to lolcat if i was a wolf as it would have meant that quoth probably gets killed before anyone is forced to make a meaningful vote.

I have to get some food. I will be back for more questions later.

i have a question for you

was it you who said I was "brilliant"? I'm not by the way, but let me at least take credit for this: I am very experienced and I think that's clear in terms of everything i've said in this game, right?

Don't you think the fact that I disagree with you about the seer peeks is meaningful? So far everyone's take on that seems to be "lol pavel peeked wolf and shiitake his wolf bro" but I think if you think about that you'll realize it makes no sense, especially given the game situation

There's one thing I can tell you for sure about what I would do as a wolf, and that is I wouldn't try to protect a seer peeked wolf when half the players in the game want to lynch him. I wouldn't lie about what I thought the peeks are as a wolf, and also I clearly am not lieing about what I think they are as a villager. Either way, it means you should trust I legitimately think that pavel is not peeked.

can u at least see why i think theres a possibility of u and godtaka being w/w?

so far i havent read anything that makes me wanna change what i think the wolf time is:
pavel
shiitake
atakpup

billy seems to be villagin it up today and considering i think pavel is a wolf atakpups vote on godkata is what i would expect from the third wolf.

I did answer it, at least in part. It's impossible to be specific without knowing who the wolves are. If you assume some of the wolves are under pressure, then I think the basic strategy is to try to see if you can get a villager lynched but without making it impossible for you to bus if it seems like the right option.

You don't want to preclude yourself from winning right away (that's why it's unlikely that wolf-pavel would vote wolf-godkata for example), but you don't want to make it impossible for your team to win later by pushing too hard trying to win now.

you can't really plan more than that as a wolf I don't think.

team*

ok im going to come back and convince u shiitake that pavel was a peek. you can convince me he was not.

i will have to say that if pavel comes up wolf, i genuinely believe u are a villa right now.

does anyone remember who the voters on shiitake were when he was tied with EAO for 3 votes on d1 ? it was billy and 2 others. i think thax was on there and who else ? mary sue ? i cant find it atm.

his gotta protect my peek clearly references mary sue, as that was the one i was voting and he was protecting at the time.

in a quote i dont have posted, AA even clearly says that he cant get pavel lynched because ppl have fakepeeks on pavel as villa and it would break seer cover (like what i had)

he seems to imply through a string of posts that hes been keeping track of everyones fake peeks and he knows he has to come out which makes the very first quote i have up there even more convincing.

I heard your explanation, but think its misguided.

ellinika: here

i think AA played brilliantly and clearly as a seer, im just surprised the village isnt recognizing it.

I agree that it's clear that the protecting his peek post is about mary sue.

I also want to point out this is another case of him using the word "peek" distinctly from the word "fakepeek"

and how he was clear that he peeked mary, but clear that he didn't peek pavel, only "fakepeek"ed him

Votes as of post 1994
Night in 02:37
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	Godkata	Pavel Datsyuk (131), Atakpup (22)
1	Pavel Datsyuk	Godkata (33)
4	not voting	Billy goat gruff (72), Ellinika se mena (40), Quoth (169), Shiitake (78)

heres the quote

"What would you say if I said I peeked you wolf last night?"
"You'd be lying"
"True, I didn't peek you wolf last night"

If he omitted the last night part, we probably wouldn't have this argument. But I think it's just conversational. I don't think he intended to have us read into it like we have been

Besides that, even if he did, if you take it face value then he would have had to peek pavel n0, but if you look at his d1 posting it seems very clear he did not peek pavel d1, and that he did peek mary d1

All of this is in addition to everythign I've already said about the peek/fakepeek distinction and the fact that a seer with a wolf peek has no reason to go so far out of his way to try to make sure he says that his wolf peek isn't real

shoudl say "did not peek pavel n0, and did peek mary n0" to be clearer

this here

Pavel also lead the CFD on EAO d1.


This is where it starts. Atakpride leading the lynch with atakpup in 2nd place. Notice the atakpup voters, 2 dead villagers and Quoth.

Pavel starts the CFD.
But why on early and often?
He was on your Mother all day (not saying he didnt mention EAO too).
Then there is this conversation between him and Mary Sue before:

He says thats its more likely for a villager to do it then for a wolf.

Finally he ends up voting for EAO.
He even calls out your mother again. And is on him most of d2, until he ends up voting me.
Beforehand he even posted this:

Its so weird that he chooses to go to EAO so easily.