serious note - Stop worrying about how people outside the game will perceive you. They think everyone sucks. And honestly - who gives a **** what people on the internet you don't know think about you? I said it on Day 1 but there are 2 games going on right now. One is the actual game in this thread, the other is trying to please people from your home site. The people from my site probably think I'm playing like ass right now and guess what? I don't care. Play ITT!
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Originally Posted by riot.conn
I'm suspect of Mr. thingyman and to a lesser extent Mr. cphoya. I'm seeing Mr. thingyman's defense of Mr. herbiegrd as a possible scum wanting his fellow scum to survive long enough to get replaced instead of lynched. Mr. thingyman's annoyance with Mr. cphoya yesterday evening reads as someone frustrated that the replacement hasn't dissuaded those already suspect of Mr. herbiegrd.
Are those the ideas you were asking about?
That's a stretch. Although Thingy is super active and emotional, I don't see that happening. He's been googoo gaga over the top players from his home site all game, I don't see him suddenly losing adoration and panicking so quick because one of his idols isn't swaying opinion immediately.
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Originally Posted by tappokone
Thingy, if I look up some of your wolf games, will I find you defending struggling wolf bros?
This is irrelevant. These meta questions don't help. Even if someone took the time to carefully read all those games and understand the many variables that make each one unique - you still wouldn't have a large sample size for a strong conclusion. Waste of time.
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Originally Posted by Thingyman
Okay, let me view this from your POV
You're suspicious that I don't want Herbie/Hoya lynched. This is partly because I am only actually reading him neutral. I can see how this can rub some people the wrong way - to some degree.
But, and I'm obviously biased here, I am surprised that you think that I'd be this aggressive and stubborn about it as scum/scum with Hoya. What do I get out of that? It's been made perfectly clear that I wouldn't get any townie points from it even if he flips townie - actually, quite the opposite. It's been made perfectly clear that I would be painted as scum if he flips scum. And it seems like his lynch is a foregone conclusion apparently, so what am I trying to achieve here? I am a scum who is actively trying to get myself lynched? Or I'm a villager who's going with his reads? And even if I WAS a scum, wouldn't I at least just have Hoya as a full on townie rather than keep him as neutral since that constantly seems to be setting people off? And if your theory is that I am scum and that my goal is to distance myself from him, I would've achieved that already on day 1, so why pursue it any further.
You're gonna use that term WIFOM here now or something, but come on, this is super simple. Draw on your own experience to make a conclusion here.
I am just struggling to see what it is that you're really finding suspicious here. I can understand if you're just generally weirded out about the whole thing and that you feel a need to pressure or test me, that's fine, but you need to understand that that IS how I operate (and it's generally how people operate on this forum, so I don't know why VMF is being this way), we believe very strongly in reads. We're a poker forum - it's all about reads. And I as a villager am renowned for trying to clear people. Hopefully some of the other poggers can back this up.
I was going to bring this up post game but w/e. I think you POG people giving Herbie such a large leash is partly why reads are all over the place. The emo fest and excuses are too much. Herbie should have been lynched, and we'd have a clear idea on where to go especially since that bs at the end of day 1. The fact that you swept all of Herbie's garbage under the rug makes me think the only way you're scum going so hard for him/her is that it's a Scum PR you fear losing.
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Originally Posted by Thingyman
My answer wouldn't be very helpful / help me here, because it's more complicated than that, but if you take a look at my wolf games, the difference becomes apparent.
As a wolf, I don't bus. And if I think that I can reasonably defend a wolf, sure, I'll do it. But I have never, once, in my entire mafia career defended a wolf to the extent or in the way that I am defending Herbie/Hoya. Not even close. Not even a little. I do, however, as a villager behave this way about my reads. This will be probably almost immediately apparent upon re-reading either a wolf or villa game of mine. I have never used this many posts on one person in any wolf game of mine.
IRRELEVANT. No wonder we clash. You're a meta player bringing up **** that doesn't matter to this game.
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Originally Posted by merk_sa
Thingyman
I'll give this a whirl. Let me see if I can codify my feelings into a real case.
This post is just so odd. The Thingy heat is building but he shouldn't be a lynch barring some miraculous breakthrough info soon. Keep reading.
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Originally Posted by tappokone
Let's talk about Stanley for a change. Here's his reason for voting for Despo:
Here are the people on the Despo wagon before Arc unclaimed:
Here's Stanley's most recent wolf list:
Mills is the one he keeps pushing in other posts.
What you should be noting here is that none of his wolf leans voted for Despo, yet he claims to think that Despo is a wolf because wolves believed Arc's claim. And he doesn't show any interest in who exactly voted for Despo and which of the voters are the wolves.
So that's wolfy.
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Toppa catches Stanley in a flat out lie here. This should be one of the top wagons asap.
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Originally Posted by Thingyman
Could you provide us with your thoughts on Ace now?
@ Palmar
Have you given up on this game, what's up?
dat tunnel. I'm living in your head rent free.
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
okay so you are admitting to being wolfy here. i accept these statements. guilty conscience. stagnant reads. agendas. over confidence.
i feel confident on my wolf read on you. if im wrong and i get you mislynched. i will feel motivated to work even harder. i dont think im wrong tho
Sketchy. Doesn't seem like you're reading objectively.
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
Wolves
CPHoya
Thingyman
DrGonzo25
Tweedybirdd
Analstanley <-----
Tappokone <-----
LOCK IT IN
Tappo brought up a case on Stanley. Unless you believe he's bussing when Stanley has no heat, they can't be Scum together if you're reading the thread. I generally think you've been off the radar and actually somewhat entertaining. But I'm fully reorienting some of my reads and you appear to be forcing things.
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Originally Posted by riot.conn
Would someone else with experience playing with Mr. thingyman comment on the statement made by him that he does not bus fellow scum?
IRRELEVANT.
CPHOYA
The next best wagon is Analstanley which I'm very well thinking might be even better than Hoya. That post shouldn't be ignored as it shows fake content on Stanley's part.
@BWG: Stop the emo ****.