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03-12-2014 , 05:58 AM

#426

BlackWerewolfGenie

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am I winning?

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03-12-2014 , 07:24 AM

#427

Kukraprout

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

Insanity, would you rather be right 90% of the time and be able to explain it logically or right 91% of the time but only be able to explain 80% logically and have 11% unexplained but definitely correct? There is only one right answer here.

the first guy is obviously better to have as a teammate: you follow him when he has a logical explanation and you flip a coin the rest of the time, you are 95% right
the best you can do with the second guy is follow him blindly and be 91% right

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03-12-2014 , 07:44 AM

#428

DiggertheDog

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a good example why kukraprout is value selection that I mentioned earlier I think

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03-12-2014 , 07:52 AM

#429

Duckburg

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Kukra was a steal last draft - will obv also be it this draft.

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03-12-2014 , 07:56 AM

#430

ihcjay

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His trolling in HP5 should've moved him up by itself.

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03-12-2014 , 12:50 PM

#431

mutigers

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i was sitting on the toilet and thinking about this and one guy who should go soon is disko

makes me mad that he just posted in the draft thread right after i thought about him though

elite wolf and not a bad villager at all

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03-12-2014 , 01:00 PM

#432

Chris Pine

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thoughts on bhuber being picked before others?

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03-12-2014 , 01:04 PM

#433

72off

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seems like a reach, but i haven't seen a lot from him yet tbh.
wouldn't have been on my radar at all, quite possible that's a me problem though.
i assume that it's objectively a poor value pick.
but maybe he's a star in the making, i dunno.

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03-12-2014 , 01:19 PM

#434

Namath12

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So the mid round strategy seems to have shifted away from "Let's get this guy, nobody's heard from him in a while but he used to be GRATE!" and toward, "Let's get this guy, sure nobody's heard from him but eventually he'll be GRATE!"

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03-12-2014 , 01:20 PM

#435

72off

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available current GRATES = population 0

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03-12-2014 , 01:26 PM

#436

DWetzel

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bhuber's solid enough. binkles and me* basically agreed to kill him (ahead of luckbox and Redd among others) n2 in a recent vanilla after we lynched the seer, basically because we figured he was the only one with a particularly good chance of figuring things out.

He's got a tendency to take days off that I'd be worried about as a teammate, but he's got a pretty good head IMO.

*it was mostly binkles' idea, I just went along with it

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03-12-2014 , 03:17 PM

#437

Howl Kiper Jr.

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 37

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Originally Posted by exec771

Bored at work.

Comparing 2012 and 2014 draft sheets is interesting.

Dean and Herbie both moved up spots despite having played a grand total of less than 5 games between them this period. Clearly their strat is working. Could it propel them to #1 and #2 by the time this rolls around in 2016?

Both Halpert and Euroa got drafted at the exact same spot on both. Consistency!

Certainly you look at the story of this draft has to be wahoopride. Former 3rd overall pick just two years ago and now dropping all the way down to the middle tier of this draft as we end the 4th round shortly.

I think it's a mystery honestly, Boom. You look at some of these other players taken, just as many participation questions, just as many if not more, sort of red flags if you will in terms of the motor, the commitment, the ability to adapt to the new systems, and yet its wahoopride who still finds himself waiting for that call.

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03-12-2014 , 03:23 PM

#438

Howl Kiper Jr.

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You think about bsball also maybe being in that category as well, certainly him and wahoo were friends at the college level. So I see no reason why they shouldn't be drafted soon when you have players like XXsooted and G0tgame off the board.

I think you look at D4's approach to this draft, you sort of scratch your head a bit, obviously wanted more of those old school conference players on his squad and yet he's overlooked some of the best ones.

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03-12-2014 , 03:24 PM

#439

soah

Unexpected

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61,666

It seems like there have been quite a few complaints about wahoo's participation level in games he's played since the last draft. Given that players are not being drafted based on their peak, I'd assume that that's why he's falling so much.

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03-12-2014 , 03:31 PM

#440

soah

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It's not a bad strategy to just cater to the demographics of the voters and draft a bunch of people who play a lot and post a lot in 2013-2014, but even within that framework I feel like there's been quite a bit of spew.

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03-12-2014 , 03:33 PM

#441

fnord_too

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Idea for next time this is runs, results should be measured by performance over the next yearish. So say draft in December, then in November rank the players by their performance since the draft completion (the whole ranking thing would need to be figured out).

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03-12-2014 , 03:33 PM

#442

Namath12

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I can't remember the last time I saw wahoo post on 2+2 at all actually.

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03-12-2014 , 03:36 PM

#443

Zayana

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I think the anon draft games are a little more fun than the straight drafts... generally limited that way to current players and they have to prove their worth in games immediately...

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03-12-2014 , 03:39 PM

#444

72off

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bsball & wahoo are similar in that they've probably both tarnished whatever reputation they had by signing up for games every once in a while the last couple years, but failing to participate / playing poorly.

and yeah some of it is probably a reaction to wahoo being taken 3rd last time, which most felt like was a pretty big mistake at the time? seemed that way. guessing they'll both be taken in the next couple rounds though.

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03-12-2014 , 03:42 PM

#445

iversonian

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i've bit my nails clean off waiting for kyrosmom to get drafted.

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03-12-2014 , 03:44 PM

#446

exec771

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I think wahoo's a steal at this stage with old schoolers getting drafted, 3rd overall was lol but he was a pretty smart villager when not totally slanking, and very good with NA's as a wolf tammate, plus he made it to d4 on meta alone.