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03-11-2014 , 06:23 PM

#301

HerbieGRD

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Originally Posted by Ashington

Zaya is a she? My reads continue to bear fruit

Yup - girls on the internet - who knew?

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03-11-2014 , 06:24 PM

#302

HerbieGRD

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

Turbo players get no respect. It's easier to go from turbo -> long game than the other way.

In the champions game somebody(s) said on day 1 ~ "it's too late to change wagons, only 5 hours left"

CFDs are bad: the worst conventional wisdom in werewolf?

Not the worst, but I agree it's bad.

Turbos are harder than people give them credit for being

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03-11-2014 , 06:26 PM

#303

Namath12

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

Turbo players get no respect. It's easier to go from turbo -> long game than the other way.

How so?

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

In the champions game somebody(s) said on day 1 ~ "it's too late to change wagons, only 5 hours left"

CFDs are bad: the worst conventional wisdom in werewolf?

lol

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03-11-2014 , 06:27 PM

#304

younguns87

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Originally Posted by Kaze13

i dont play long games

guessed 5.12 for myself

I put 6.10 cause I too didn't think turbos would get respect and Im not that great of a long game player. I think you would be good at long games if you started playing them and I think some of the drafters know that. If you fall to 5.12, I would be pretty shocked

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Originally Posted by Ashington

Zaya is a she? My reads continue to bear fruit

lol.

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

I think now that turbos have started running constantly that we have gained more respect. They use to be just for ****s and giggles.

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03-11-2014 , 06:27 PM

#305

iversonian

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"it's too late to change wagons, only 5 hours left"

was it sarge who said that?

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03-11-2014 , 06:27 PM

#306

Zayana

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Originally Posted by Ashington

Zaya is a she? My reads continue to bear fruit

*laugh* um, yes... I'm a she

*shakes head*

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03-11-2014 , 06:27 PM

#307

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I freely admit not to playing many turbos so maybe I'm remembering wrong, but from what I recall, isn't it pretty much a necessity to find the seer by n2 in order for the wolves to ever have a chance in a turbo?

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03-11-2014 , 06:28 PM

#308

younguns87

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Turbos are about the FUNDAMENTALS of WW even more so than Vanillas in my slightly biased opinion.

And as we know, once you get the Fundamentals down, the rest comes easy

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03-11-2014 , 06:28 PM

#309

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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD

Zaya is definitely a great asset to any team imo - I actually think she gets underrated as a player in part because she is so fun to play with and doesn't have as aggressive and confrontational a style as some others do

just

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03-11-2014 , 06:29 PM

#310

younguns87

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Originally Posted by Ashington

Yes but by then you should able to determine who the seer is ~always.

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03-11-2014 , 06:31 PM

#311

younguns87

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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD

and I second this.

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03-11-2014 , 06:32 PM

#312

Nofear3838

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Originally Posted by younguns87

Turbos are about the FUNDAMENTALS of WW even more so than Vanillas in my slightly biased opinion.

And as we know, once you get the Fundamentals down, the rest comes easy

This is true, fwiw

Sadly, the fundamentals of WW are constantly abandoned in favor of YOLO and HERO SHATS

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03-11-2014 , 06:35 PM

#313

Chips Ahoy

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Originally Posted by Ashington

How so?

Long game players are overwhelmed by the pace when they first try turbos.

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Originally Posted by Ashington

Yes, but that's the 4th death out of 9 players, and a d1 mislynch puts tremendous pressure on the seer to claim so it's not an unreasonable burden.

In any vanilla game there's a tipping point where seer value dominates.

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03-11-2014 , 06:38 PM

#314

Effen

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2 REALLY glaring omissions atm

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03-11-2014 , 06:40 PM

#315

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Originally Posted by Effen

2 REALLY glaring omissions atm

at least

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03-11-2014 , 06:40 PM

#316

younguns87

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I do love me some TN, but I dont draft her in the 3rd round.

Again I havent played with her much lately so I dont know how much shes improved but I believe her to be an average player with an above average work ethic

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03-11-2014 , 06:41 PM

#317

Chips Ahoy

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

In any vanilla game there's a tipping point where seer value dominates.

Which is why I say the pog conventional wisdom on seer cover is backwards. Most vanillagers put on their best pretend to be the seer act day 1 and have it tail off from there. But the n1 kill is not that important and pretending to be the seer early makes it hard to pretend to be the seer late.

I think it's much better to only pretend to be the seer later, when each night of a live seer is a huge gain. It's also much easier to have (say) 2 correct live peeks on day 3 than to make a correct peek every day.

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03-11-2014 , 06:42 PM

#318

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yeah that seems too high for TN

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Sadly, the fundamentals of WW are constantly abandoned in favor of p0nies

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03-11-2014 , 06:42 PM

#319

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I'm surprised Gadarene and Sun Tzu haven't been picked yet... off hand...

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03-11-2014 , 06:43 PM

#320

younguns87

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whose the glaring omissions right now?

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03-11-2014 , 06:43 PM

#321

Zayana

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Originally Posted by younguns87

and I second this.

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03-11-2014 , 06:43 PM

#322

Top Tier Tom

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Originally Posted by Zayana

I'm surprised Gadarene and Sun Tzu haven't been picked yet... off hand...

Have you been recruited yet? You're solid IMO

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03-11-2014 , 06:44 PM

#323

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Originally Posted by Zayana

I'm surprised Gadarene and Sun Tzu haven't been picked yet... off hand...

Kinda surprised about this too. OFF THE FIELD issues and ALL-VIG game may be playing to his disadvantage.

Also, Traz should be drafted relatively soon. I know he doesn't play often but the guy is a straight up beast villager imo

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03-11-2014 , 06:46 PM

#324

Zayana

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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

Have you been recruited yet? You're solid IMO

Yeah, I'm gone, and thank you.

Still bummed I ended up peeking you in the anon game...

but that was a lot of fun.

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03-11-2014 , 06:48 PM

#325

Zayana

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Originally Posted by younguns87

That's too bad, seriously he can tear a game up when he has time or the mind too. It's fun to play with him... when we're on the same team...

Um what? traz went 6th...

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