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10-22-2013 , 05:34 PM
I am glad to see that most people would be surprised if I'm mafia. I know I'm not around as much as a lot of you but id like to think what I contribute is helpful.
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10-22-2013 , 05:42 PM
Vagos do you have anything to say for yourself other than youtube videos?
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10-22-2013 , 05:43 PM
My list reads like this:

dbmurph
valar morghulis
well named
blfg
lenC
maki
theragnarok
durcelldk
Top Tier Tom
vineetrika
darthe
sts_za
shin ganzetsu
Gmaster
vagos
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10-22-2013 , 05:44 PM
BLFG: vagos posted lolcats. He conceded. He is a wolf. It is 100%
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10-22-2013 , 05:50 PM
My plan most the game was going to try to hook up with morency at some point with a fake mason claim. Such a weird wolf move to try and fake claim mason and name a townie as your partner that I thought he would figure out what I was going after (ie seer with safe view as fake mason). But then he went and voted me yesterday. Poohead.

Then the vig thing happened. A lot of my plans got bagpipedanned this game.

The list of four thing was like a small consolation prize. Sort of like a George Foreman Grill on The Price is Right. Was really wanting the sportscar or I would have even taken the trip to Nebraska. But the grill.

Anyway, had a hard time figuring out what to do. Other considerations were a fake hit, list Vagos as clear, or giving no hits and just clears. Things is nothing would have worked really because the wolves were not going to counter no matter the situation. Need to have sort of a "if they think this, they will do this, but if they think that, they will do that" situation.

Hopefully we got a teeny more insight into STS.
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10-22-2013 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
BLFG: vagos posted lolcats. He conceded. He is a wolf. It is 100%
yamato posts baby seals when he concedes as scum.

i approve this.
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10-22-2013 , 05:52 PM
dbmurph22 could you please check IenC next night?
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10-22-2013 , 05:52 PM
Agreed with GMaster and Shin.

I feel good about TTT, Rag, and Darthe, but feel they could be playing deep.

I like Maki and Vine more than others, which concerns me, but I'm going to stick with it for now I think.
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10-22-2013 , 05:52 PM
Good job+good effort, Vagos.
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10-22-2013 , 05:55 PM
Vagos

Someone please respond to my post at 2321. Town needs to calm down, rally up, and stick to basics. BLFG's thought process following dbm's actions is paranoid as hell. BLFG, you could stand to listen a little less to yourself and a little more to the rest of us. Not trying to start beef, but I think you need a /jostle. Think about what I said so far today please.
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10-22-2013 , 05:55 PM
This made me think of one of my favorite outed evil moments:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/7595795#7595795
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10-22-2013 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dbmurph22
Please repost this.
2054

Chips really is one of the greatest to ever play the fine sport of werewolf but I don't think the wolves would waste a kill on him if his peek was wrong, at least not on 2p2.
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Originally Posted by dbmurph22
I do find Len sponging Chips so heavily a little bothersome.
Dude, you were the biggest wolflean of Chips and I came around on you. It makes no sense to assume his reads got worse on d2 and then got killed.
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10-22-2013 , 05:59 PM
TTT is also looking like an active scum.
Goddamn, when is questioning a claim a bad thing to do?
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10-22-2013 , 05:59 PM
Was sort of timewarping at the time.
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10-22-2013 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BLFG
TTT is also looking like an active scum.
Goddamn, when is questioning a claim a bad thing to do?
When it's done by me. Duh.
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10-22-2013 , 06:00 PM
Votes from post 2232 to post 2665
Night in 2:00:30

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VotesLynchVoters
4 Vagos Top Tier Tom (8), BLFG (74), Darthe (24), Shin Zangetsu (18)
1 lenC DuracellDK (17)
1 BLFG Valar Morghulis (11)
1 dbmurph22 Vagos (27)
1 STS_za Maki_ (5)
1 Darthe STS_za (41)
1 Shin Zangetsu well named (78)
1 unvote dbmurph22 (79)
4 not voting Vineetrika (6), TheRagnarok (25), lenC (10), GMaster479 (0)
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10-22-2013 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BLFG
TTT is also looking like an active scum.
Goddamn, when is questioning a claim a bad thing to do?
The biggest wtf for me would have been why did dbm not go after Vagos in a noticeable way and how convenient it is for the "seer" to have picked 3 dead townies as his peeks. That probably wouldn't fly on my forum. But Vagos conceded so at that point there was nothing left to discuss about it.
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10-22-2013 , 06:03 PM
I posted a softdefend post about GMaster yesterday, I just thought he was too wolfy to be a wolf type of villager. That said, if he doesn't post tonight, I'm gonna assume his frozen in the depths of Antispew and am fine with killing him.

Reading his games from the link of his bio might be a good idea for anyone not having anything to do.
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10-22-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vineetrika
My read on Len ...

Day 1: I felt like he wanted to put in his share of the contribution to the game. Gave a meta read on Ragnarok. He voted for Darthe almost around the closing time (7:39 p.m.) with no reason, probably because Darthe was getting all the heat and he hoped on the wagon. Later he switched to VE as the role VE claimed is not in the list. I excuse him for the VE vote because there is no thinking time in the near end. But his hopping on the wagon and voting for Darthe is a little suspicious for me.
Spoiler:
- not interested in walls of text to reason regarding no-lynch
- gives a list of villager and suspect and no reason for why they are suspect
- tells about another game he played with Ragnarok
- suggests everyone to read through his home forum and report their findings
- asks to confirm his suspicion on BLFG based on the meta read on him (BLFG)
- reads on Chips is town as he thinks the same way as LenC in regards to BLFG, but he says he could be wrong and his read will be better after the N1 kills
- meta read on Ragnarok as Village based on the game he was playing with him
- thinks STS is village too, reason: wolf doesn't open with no lynch option - my thought too
- agrees to BLFG that Ragnarok's read is wolfy and with the similar behavior he was mistaken Ragnarok for wolf.
- gives a probable reason for Chris suspecting BLFG (BLFG's vote on STS based on no-lynch question he asked)
- agrees with BLFG that WN writes many words but says very little
- gives his reason for why he thinks STS is innocent (upon pondering from BLFG) and the reason STS wouldn't have the courage to make that first post as wolf
- quotes posts from another game that well named played and he says that is not looking good as VT
- BLFG questions on why he thinks STS is town based on the no-lynch statement in the first post
and the response is a VT would not look back at the wording of the posts before posting it
- WN says that comparing this to normal POG games is useless and LenC gives his point of view
- gave his meta on Ragnarok again as Ragnarok made into Chris's suspicious list
- not feeling like lynching VE but finds Yamato spongable
- trusts Yamato and will look into CJ
- finds CJ's case on Mont good, "You guys are sure talky. XD" is 54% wolfy in ref. to Mont.
- player who makes 4 posts on D1 and peaces out is 84% villager (probably in ref. to chris)
- murph questions the sample size for his stats and responds back as 951 times of 1132
- first vote on Darthe (no reasoning provided)
- suggests VE to take his vote off Maki and put it where it matters
- posts a list of all roles looking for jail keeper as VE claimed
- votes for VE at the end (probably because VE claimed that he didn't find in the list)


Day 2: Didn't get much from him other than Chips (confirmed townie) trusting him.

Spoiler:
- votes for VE, no reason provided (probably for the same reason he voted for VE on D1)
- Chips reasoning for LenC not being wolf is that a wolf would wait for the villagers to see the faulty claim. A wolf pointing a faulty claim would show more presence and LenC doesn't fit into that category. Len agrees with this analysis.
- he points out the votes on GMaster by CJ and VE ... not sure why


Day 3: His day 3 interaction was much better than day 2, probably because of the weekend thing. He mostly based his analysis and vote based on the Chip's list, who is a confirmed townie. I wish he had made his own reads instead of using someone else's, not that taking reads of a confirmed townie is bad.

Spoiler:
- quotes Chips list from D1 and D2 and highlights the changes made by Chips. Votes for dbmurph as he was the top suspect in Chips list.
- questions WN on why Chip kill analysis and vote for DB (Chips top suspect).
- WN responds by saying he didn't ignore and consider CJ as lynch candidate.
- Agrees to WN's response and thinks Chips list could be the starting point and thinks one of DB/CJ to be lynched
- enquires to see who is cleared if CJ turns up as wolf beside WN and in the same line posts "(No, I don't think you're at lack clairdom yet, sorry)" not sure who he is addressing with this
- thinks BLFG is clear because of his solid recovery from D1
- Darthe is clear from Chips list
- worried about CJ left despite WN calling for his head every day
- quotes the murph post voting for CJ and he thinks both of them can't be wolf at the same time
- when WN posts that he is going to look into VE voters, Len suggests him to name names and defends himself as he voted for VE too.
- says he points out things that ping him
- reminds everyone about the Majority rule and suggests not to vote for CJ
- doesn't mind CJ getting killed, he is more that 50% wolf but preferred to have murph wagon too
- gives his read on GMaster and agrees with Chips getting the wolfie vibes but gives GMaster a townie credit
God damn.
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10-22-2013 , 06:07 PM
This is my view pool:

durcelldk
Top Tier Tom
vineetrika
darthe
sts_za

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Vigilante, other powers, LAY THE FFFFF OFF.
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10-22-2013 , 06:09 PM
Vagos and CJ voted for each other on D2. CJ and Gmaster voted for each other D3. I sense a trend.
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10-22-2013 , 06:12 PM
I think it's absolutely essential that gmaster and shin zangetsu die after vagos. They need to be the next two people killed like 100% of the time

After that it's harder and I feel like I won't be alive for it, but that would get us to endgame at least.

I made cases on both gmaster and shin today and I think they are both good and worth referring to if you missed them
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10-22-2013 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
The biggest wtf for me would have been why did dbm not go after Vagos in a noticeable way and how convenient it is for the "seer" to have picked 3 dead townies as his peeks. That probably wouldn't fly on my forum. But Vagos conceded so at that point there was nothing left to discuss about it.

Indeed. And I thought one of his reads was alive.. I'm tired.

I don't see why vagos conceeded.
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10-22-2013 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dbmurph22
This is my view pool:

durcelldk
Top Tier Tom
vineetrika
darthe
sts_za

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Vigilante, other powers, LAY THE FFFFF OFF.

Everyone in this group should order this group from town to scum.

Darthe
TTT
Duracell
Vine (hard choice between vine/durcell)
STS
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10-22-2013 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I think it's absolutely essential that gmaster and shin zangetsu die after vagos. They need to be the next two people killed like 100% of the time

After that it's harder and I feel like I won't be alive for it, but that would get us to endgame at least.

I made cases on both gmaster and shin today and I think they are both good and worth referring to if you missed them
I know it's a steep slope to prove it but I don't think Shin has the droids we're looking for. STS 100 times over Shin. I trust you the most so hopefully you can convince BLFG of this since he seems to not like me anymore because he's being a stubborn dick.
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