It's hit on soft 17 on all tables now I believe, at least in the non-high limit room tables.

While most of your post is correct, joints that stay on soft 17 are improving their % not yours. It's better for the player when dealer's have to hit soft 17

No. H17 adds around 0.2 percentage points to the house advantage.

I stand corrected. Actually 0.22%

false

please see above

Holy off topic comments Batman!

Back to the issue at hand.

replied before reading obv

here we go again. i only get on these forums to see whats the latest news on this current topic. why cant all you morons who do not have anything to add to this topic leave this forums and post ur garbage somwhere else. NO 1 ****** CARES ABOUT BLACKJACK. sick of going thru 14 pages in matter of couple days to find useful info.

when I played they had way more than 60% pen, bad table selection imo

Absolutely incorrect.... Ask at www.bj21.com if you want to know the exact cost to the basic strategy player for this bad rule

here we go again. i only get on these forums to see whats the latest news on the current topic. why cant all you morons who do not have anything to add to this topic leave this forums and post ur garbage somwhere else. NO 1 ****** CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT. sick of going thru 2 pages in matter of 2 minutes to find out who else is doing $200 flips when the caps are lifted.

when's the next meeting? March?

It's tough to say since the meeting schedule for the House is published only about a week in advance. However, I don't expect any of the meetings to include HB7001 as it has already passed its vote in committee. Any committee meetings related to gaming will be in regards to other proposed bills.

The only remaining hurdle that I forsee is possibly an attempt to combine HB7001 with other gaming legislation during the regular session negotiations in March and April. However, I think that chances of that happening are very slim.

I put the probability that HB7001 will remain a stand-alone bill at 98%+; that it will pass the House and Senate votes at 99%+; and that it will not be vetoed by Crist at 97%+. In other words, I expect smooth sailing from here to implementation on July 1.

Anyone want to take the over?

I rounded to 0.2 percentage points because it's different for different games.

Also, not to nitpick, but it doesn't increase the HA by 0.22%. That would imply that a 0.4% HA goes up to 0.409%. Rather, it goes up by ~0.2 percentage points, which is a 50% increase (again, different for different games).

just fyi guys

http://www.flmillion.com

fl million with only a 500k guarantee :/


also seems kinda unfair if the turnout sizes at each of the 6 different satellite locations are drastically different... maybe not though?

Its already been posted ITT and its on the tourney section

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/65...ourney-695574/

Florida Legislature considering new gambling options

"Meanwhile, Crist is still pushing his Seminole gambling deal — for a second straight year. Citing the pari-mutuels' strong influence in the both chambers of the Legislature, the governor is calling for a "hybrid" approach that could benefit both the tribe and pari-mutuel businesses. He hasn't revealed any details."

whats charlie up to now? lol

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/pal...,7840247.story

Good article - sums up the Florida gambling legislation landscape very well:
My prediction: Full blown casinos authorized in South Florida within 5 years.

This is HB7001. Glad to see in writing the "vote in the first few weeks". So, all things being equal, we'll see it passed sometime in March. If that happens, it should get to Governor's office early April and he'll have just one week to sign or veto. With a little good fortune, uncapped poker in Florida will be officially legalized before the end of April - for a July 1 implementation date.

Another piece of gambling legislation which is likely to come before the Florida legislature this session. This shouldn't have any effect on HB7001.

LOL. This is essentially what was offered to the Seminole tribe, and rejected by them, in the form of the 2009 compact authorized by HB788 last year. I wonder if the tribe is backtracking on their stance now that they see competition on the horizon. This is the only possible hitch I see for HB7001 - that somehow a new proposal is put forth that ties into HB7001 and it gets combined into a new bill making uncapped poker contingent, once again, on a new Indian compact. I still think the chances of this are very, very slim. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. (In the very small chance that this does happen, expect to wait an additional 6-12 months for uncapped poker in Florida...sigh.)

And they will probably stay mum (at least publicly - they may make some threats to the tribe and/or the state) until after the spring legislative session, to give Florida lawmakers, the governor and the tribe a chance to come up with a new deal. Once the feds take action - absent a Florida legislative solution this spring - court battles will ensue, revolving mainly around a Seminole appeal to SCOTUS to uphold the original compact.

I think we'll see three things on gambling come out of this spring session:

• HB7001 passed as a stand-alone bill (legalizing uncapped poker starting July 1).
• A new compact authorized to be negotiated with the Tribe, once again without full exclusivity for table games at the Seminole casinos, and including authorization of bingo slots and vlt's at pari-mutuels throughout Florida (contingent on local referendum).
• A proposal for full casinos in South Florida, which won't get to the vote stage this session.

Does this mean that the Seminoles would be spreading uncapped poker at the end of April?

Possible, but unlikely. They should still be hoping to get a compact signed and shouldn't want to do anything to threaten the possibility of a compact giving them exclusitivity.

Parimutuels bank on virtual blackjack machines

"Virtual blackjack has been deemed legally the same as slot machines in part because the results are determined not by actual cards but by a random number-generator -- the same way slots choose who wins and who loses. This means that if a player ahead of you chooses to ``hit'' and take another card, or ``stand'' with what they have, those actions don't affect what card you're dealt. The ``card'' that player takes is not the one that machine would have given to you."

still dont know if that means that if your supposed to win then you cant bust or if your supposed to lose you cant win

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/sout...y/1467556.html

Just got done playing 2/5 NL at Mardi Gras old folks home Was on the button with my $100 buy-in .... I was dealt pocket AA ... made standard raise to $20 ... called by calling-station grandma .... Flop come 9-7-3 (rainbow) ... I raised to $25 and grandma calls .... turn is 8 ... I go all in for $55 ... Grandma calls again ... the river is a 10 ... Grandma flips up J7u and was pissed she didn't hit the J or 7. She congratulates me on a good hand but then the dealer pushes the money to Grandma and points out the straight she made. Grandma was a little befuddled but happy she won another big pot. She later leaves up $500. ... sigh.

I really hate short stack poker. I can't wait until Florida drops these stupid buy-in limits and the real poker begins. I just wonder how long Grandma and the other bingo players can stand the heat before they have to leave the kitchen.

imagine being able to rebuy for 500 to cover grandma... god.. i can't freaking wait.