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02-10-2010 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Fubster
okay seriously you guys please stop talking strat it is making my brain angry. can we please talk about flips and donkaments and uncapped poker now?
I subscribe to his thread because I live in Florida, love poker and play alot of "Florida Poker". "Florida Poker" is very unique. Because of its nuances (Dumb players, short stacks) "Florida Poker" play and strategy is different than what i'll call "Vegas Poker". On July 1st (God willing) all that will change. The strategy used will change overnight. HB 7001 will change the way I play poker. For me this thread has two purposes.

(1) inform me on the latest legislative actions regarding Florida poker

and

(2) Hear other people's opinions (I think there are many smart poker players in this thread) on how my strategy and play should change if HB7001 becomes a reality. So strategy as it relates to "Florida Poker" and this bill is fair game for this thread. It will very interesting to see how play changes in July and there will be a window of high EV if I know how to adjust my game.

If I am wrong please direct me to a thread that is more appropriate for discussing strategy within the context of this bill.
02-10-2010 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bigslickmark
If I am wrong please direct me to a thread that is more appropriate for discussing strategy within the context of this bill.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...kes-full-ring/
02-10-2010 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bigslickmark
If I am wrong please direct me to a thread that is more appropriate for discussing strategy within the context of this bill.
It's easy to start a new thread. This one is best left for news about the legislation.
02-10-2010 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
It's easy to start a new thread. This one is best left for news about the legislation.
Thx. Maybe in Bricks and Mortar. I just don't know how to do it.
02-10-2010 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bigslickmark
I subscribe to his thread because I live in Florida, love poker and play alot of "Florida Poker". "Florida Poker" is very unique. Because of its nuances (Dumb players, short stacks) "Florida Poker" play and strategy is different than what i'll call "Vegas Poker". On July 1st (God willing) all that will change. The strategy used will change overnight. HB 7001 will change the way I play poker. For me this thread has two purposes.

(1) inform me on the latest legislative actions regarding Florida poker

and

(2) Hear other people's opinions (I think there are many smart poker players in this thread) on how my strategy and play should change if HB7001 becomes a reality. So strategy as it relates to "Florida Poker" and this bill is fair game for this thread. It will very interesting to see how play changes in July and there will be a window of high EV if I know how to adjust my game.

If I am wrong please direct me to a thread that is more appropriate for discussing strategy within the context of this bill.
I agree. I was going to reply with something very similar, in fact. Fortunately, you saved me the trouble.

Strat posts related to the Florida game are fair game, so to speak, because they get to the benefits of the proposed legislation. Strategy posts for the sake of strategy discussion should be made to the appropriate forum.
02-10-2010 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
It's easy to start a new thread. This one is best left for news about the legislation.
True. Strategy posts not specific to FL need to be in B&M or another relevant forum. However, strategy posts specific to FL that illustrate the benefits of legislation are not only permitted -- they actually form the basis of some of the lobbying in Tallahassee (skill vs. luck).
02-10-2010 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
True. Strategy posts not specific to FL need to be in B&M or another relevant forum. However, strategy posts specific to FL that illustrate the benefits of legislation are not only permitted -- they actually form the basis of some of the lobbying in Tallahassee (skill vs. luck).
Pleased to be offering my home video via xtranormal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwPFp9K6fA

An old E but good E.
02-10-2010 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bigslickmark
Thx. Maybe in Bricks and Mortar. I just don't know how to do it.
Actually the mods in B&M just decreed a few months ago against strat talk. They now want strat for low-limit live games to be in the microstakes full ring forum. Mdom88 gave a link above. There's a "New Thread" button near the top.
02-10-2010 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam
Pleased to be offering my home video via xtranormal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwPFp9K6fA

An old E but good E.
lol, that's mother ****ing hilarious.
02-10-2010 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam
Pleased to be offering my home video via xtranormal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwPFp9K6fA

An old E but good E.
Nice one!
02-10-2010 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
True. Strategy posts not specific to FL need to be in B&M or another relevant forum. However, strategy posts specific to FL that illustrate the benefits of legislation are not only permitted -- they actually form the basis of some of the lobbying in Tallahassee (skill vs. luck).
I agree. I'm just suggesting that a different thread be started here in Legislation about how the game play is now in comparison to how it will be once the legislation takes effect, and leave this thread for actual news about the legislation. That way those interested in the game strategy and how the Florida legislation affects it will have their thread for discussion while those just interested in the news won't have to keep checking and reading this thread to find that it's just more strategy talk.
02-10-2010 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
I agree. I'm just suggesting that a different thread be started here in Legislation about how the game play is now in comparison to how it will be once the legislation takes effect, and leave this thread for actual news about the legislation. That way those interested in the game strategy and how the Florida legislation affects it will have their thread for discussion while those just interested in the news won't have to keep checking and reading this thread to find that it's just more strategy talk.
Yes please.
02-11-2010 , 12:01 AM
getting back on topic,

PX, i never got your opinion on a question i asked up the page.. If luck has it that the bill is passed in late april and christ signs it right away, in your opinion, will the seminoles start spreading uncapped poker in may?
02-11-2010 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by buckyb88
getting back on topic,

PX, i never got your opinion on a question i asked up the page.. If luck has it that the bill is passed in late april and christ signs it right away, in your opinion, will the seminoles start spreading uncapped poker in may?
Tough to say. I consider it a possibility. The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act allows an Indian tribe to run poker games equivalent to anything that is legal to anyone else in the state. HB7001 will make uncapped poker legal at the pari-mutel cardrooms in Florida, and thus also at the Seminole casinos. However, technically uncapped poker won't be legal at the cardrooms until the implementation date of HB7001, which is July 1. Whether or not this technicality will keep the tribe from starting uncapped poker straight away after HB7001 passes into law is likely to depend on the current state of affairs between the state, the tribe and the feds in regards to casino table games.
02-11-2010 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
I agree. I'm just suggesting that a different thread be started here in Legislation about how the game play is now in comparison to how it will be once the legislation takes effect, and leave this thread for actual news about the legislation.
Of course (except we still don't want detailed strategy discussion in Legislation). That's what I was saying.

A line or two about plays that people will now make vs. what will happen with the new legislation is appropriate. Multi-paragraph posts detailing the entire play, reads on opponents, odds villain faced, PokerStove analyses, etc. will be moved to appropriate forums (starting now, of course....I don't want to dig back, and no one reported any of the prior ones).
02-11-2010 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Strat posts related to the Florida game are fair game, so to speak, because they get to the benefits of the proposed legislation. Strategy posts for the sake of strategy discussion should be made to the appropriate forum.
Everyone,

To clarify, this is just the aspects specific to the FL game. Do not interpret this to permit a five paragraph bad beat post. The FL-specific parts will be at most a couple of lines. This is because your specific starting hand, opponents' specific starting hands, and the specific board cards are not important to this. After all, the issues with the FL game are not cause by how single hands are played.
02-11-2010 , 03:42 AM
i mean honestly guys... the questionable strat posts belong either in beginners forum or small stakes full ring or w/e. not trying to be rude, but really this thread should be about flips and getting drunk with locals and then some law talk. no strat plz & ty
02-11-2010 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam
Pleased to be offering my home video via xtranormal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwPFp9K6fA

An old E but good E.
LOL that's funny

found this one also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbCtU...eature=related
02-11-2010 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fubster
i mean honestly guys... the questionable strat posts belong either in beginners forum or small stakes full ring or w/e. not trying to be rude, but really this thread should be about flips and getting drunk with locals and then some law talk. no strat plz & ty
The whole "$200 flips" thing was an annoying derail as well, dude. Lay off. More suitable for its own thread in B&M.
02-12-2010 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bulls_horn
The whole "$200 flips" thing was an annoying derail as well, dude. Lay off. More suitable for its own thread in B&M.
GO AWAY

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...ers-questions/ <----strat goes here
02-12-2010 , 05:40 AM
mmmmmmmmm flipping with mdom makes me salivate... even more than the fishies buying in for 100bbs
02-13-2010 , 08:59 PM
July 1st seems to be the target date IMO.
02-14-2010 , 06:50 AM
I do think once legislation passes we should open a thread specifically for the 200 flip. We may get enough people to maybe do something else fun with it. Maybe do it on a PLO game, instead of NLHE... since it will be the first time legalized once legislation passes.
02-14-2010 , 06:57 AM
I'll be all for playing a semi-regular small PLO game with all you guys eventually, but for the first month or so, I don't think i'm going to want to be wasting time at a table full of 2p2ers when there are 5/10 and 10/25 games going full of fish with 100bbs...
02-14-2010 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yankee grinder
I do think once legislation passes we should open a thread specifically for the 200 flip. We may get enough people to maybe do something else fun with it. Maybe do it on a PLO game, instead of NLHE... since it will be the first time legalized once legislation passes.
Sorry to reply to this off topic post, but, isn't a flip a type of prop bet? Most rooms would not allow this at the table, legal or otherwise, IMO. The posts sound like ppl are waiting to be able to flip a coin for money. You can do that right now, just not at the table. Maybe I just don't get it.

Keep up the good work PX. I was sure hoping that it would be legal right after the vote (uncapped/hours).

Keep on topic. PLEASE!

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