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04-08-2015 , 04:08 AM

#17651

daveT

S.A.G.E. Master

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23,955

Uh.. wouldn't the banks have their own API which is much more secure?

I'd also imagine that there is some throttling limit that they could put on your IP, but I'm too trusting of bank security just as we all are.

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04-08-2015 , 04:44 AM

#17652

clowntable

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,557

The idea is very marketable it's just not done right imo.
1) Build prototype
2) Mock up an API from the banks POV
3) Find a way that banks want to offer this to their customers
4) Implement API for bank + app client

The business problem is that many banks have an interest in customers not having a clear view of their spending and that banking is very conservative when it comes to IT changes in general. I know which bank I'd talk to here (they market themselves as ethical etc.). Find a spearhead and hope it trickles.

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04-08-2015 , 06:50 AM

#17653

Gullanian

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14,014

Banks are probably the slowest moving industries re new technology and it makes sense from a risk perspective. It can be done, but it could be a multi-year approval process.

Tbh I don't see them implementing this sort of thing anyway, opens up a lot of privacy/security concerns.

Is doing it via login/scraping really the best way about this? Cant you just upload your statements every month to be analysed?

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04-08-2015 , 07:57 AM

#17654

Anais

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,663

Surprised no one thought this idea could be used to monitor for illicit transactions on one's own accounts.

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04-08-2015 , 08:00 AM

#17655

jjshabado

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,732

I imagine its a nightmare from a legal perspective. I think most countries will have pretty strict regulations on how you can store people's financial data.

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04-08-2015 , 08:09 AM

#17656

Gullanian

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14,014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anais

Surprised no one thought this idea could be used to monitor for illicit transactions on one's own accounts.

For credit cards at least, you'd be reinventing the wheel. Banks own fraud dept will catch some, and you reviewing your own statements with a generous amount of time to issue a chargeback doesn't make a fraudulent charge a time sensitive issue.

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04-08-2015 , 09:04 AM

#17657

Anais

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,663

Quicker to cancel a card if you see one bad charge than if you wait till the end of the month

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04-08-2015 , 09:14 AM

#17658

Gullanian

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14,014

Quicker for who?

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04-08-2015 , 09:17 AM

#17659

fluorescenthippo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,849

Please tell me something exists to take my FB fav artists and auto follow them on twitter when I add any. And maybe vice versa too.

I looked a bit and couldn't find anything. I will pay $25 for this asap.

Last edited by fluorescenthippo; 04-08-2015 at 09:28 AM.

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04-08-2015 , 09:23 AM

#17660

candybar

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 4,375

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluorescenthippo

Hey guys I'm looking to get into product management. Obv this is a dev forum but I think like a dev and definitely respect developers' opinions.

I have financial analyst and business analyst backgrounds and recently completed a web dev bootcamp for some technical experience. I'm thinking its prob best to become more well rounded in all the aspects a PM touches on first, since PM is pretty competitive. It seems like working at a startup as a "PM" / hustler / analyst is best for this. Thoughts?

Also if anyone wants to hook me up with an associate product management position I'll take that as well.

Where are you located and what's your actual background? Are you in the NYC metro area or at least willing to move? PM me.

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04-08-2015 , 01:56 PM

#17661

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 101,163

Code:

if ($scope.isReviewPage) {
  $scope.isReviewPage = false;
}

This is what I get to deal with all day. They didn't want to make set it to false if it was already false, so they're doing a check first. And this is one of our best Inf0sys developers.

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04-08-2015 , 02:05 PM

#17662

Grue

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,667

could be a ternary...

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04-08-2015 , 02:31 PM

#17663

candybar

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 4,375

On a related note, I got multiple downvotes on HN for arguing that one should never write if (a == true) instead of if (a), with multiple people arguing that it depends on context and may be more readable in the future.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6329181

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04-08-2015 , 03:48 PM

#17664

iosys

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,753

Some people argue that having curly braces when it is not necessary makes code more readable. I have no idea how people think that when it looks cleaner to not have them if its one line of code.

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04-08-2015 , 03:52 PM

#17665

suzzer99

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 101,163

Yeah the google Javascript standards on those. If it's very short and just if then all one line is ok. If the code is one-liners with if/else, then multiple lines w/o braces is ok. If any block is more than one line then every block needs braces.

However they also say this is ok, which is like nails on a blackboard to me:

Code:

if (a) {
  // code
  // code
} else {
  // code
  // code
}

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04-08-2015 , 04:12 PM

#17666

jjshabado

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,732

That is the correct style.

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04-08-2015 , 04:20 PM

#17667

candybar

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 4,375

Yeah, I don't understand, what do you not like about it, lemme guess, "else" being on the same line as the closing brace for the previous block?

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04-08-2015 , 04:24 PM

#17668

suzzer99

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 101,163

Yeah I can't stand it. To me it bunches the code up too much vertically and makes it harder to logically separate the blocks in my mind.

Also it makes a pain to move blocks around since you're copying part of the previous block. But I realize most people are ok with it and it's mostly a personal thing with me.

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04-08-2015 , 04:37 PM

#17669

jmakin

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27,798

No, I'm with you, I hate that too.

Are you saying you'd rather it be like this:

Code:

if (....)
 {
     // some code longer than 1 line
 }
else
 {
     //some other code longer than 1 line
 }

because that's how I personally like to write it and brackets that don't share the same indentation is really hard for me to read, personally.

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04-08-2015 , 05:02 PM

#17670

Anais

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,663

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjshabado

That is the correct style.

Have a professor who does:

Code:

if ( a ) return varB;
else if ( z ) return varY;

As opposed to

Code:

if (a)
    return varB;
else if (z)
    return varY;

Can't stand all the stuff not lining up

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04-08-2015 , 05:03 PM

#17671

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 101,163

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmakin

No, I'm with you, I hate that too.

Are you saying you'd rather it be like this:

Code:

if (....)
 {
     // some code longer than 1 line
 }
else
 {
     //some other code longer than 1 line
 }

because that's how I personally like to write it and brackets that don't share the same indentation is really hard for me to read, personally.

No this:

Code:

if (....) {
     // some code longer than 1 line
}
else {
     //some other code longer than 1 line
}

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04-08-2015 , 05:10 PM

#17672

iosys

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,753

I completely hate and go mad if it is like this.

Code:

if (...) // Hate!
{
...
...
}

if (...) { // Love
...
...
}

if (...) ... // Sort of dislike for some reason.
else ...

if (...) // Prefer.
  ... 
else
  ...

The if else with multiple lines doesn't really bother me depending on where else is located. Visual Studio seems to format the if statements to what I dislike for c# but not in c++.

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04-08-2015 , 05:25 PM

#17673

candybar

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 4,375

Quote:

Originally Posted by iosys

The if else with multiple lines doesn't really bother me depending on where else is located. Visual Studio seems to format the if statements to what I dislike for c# but not in c++.

Isn't this what you're looking for?

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04-08-2015 , 05:32 PM

#17674

jmakin

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27,798

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

No this:

Code:

if (....) {
     // some code longer than 1 line
}
else {
     //some other code longer than 1 line
}

Yea i dont mind that

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04-08-2015 , 05:54 PM

#17675

jjshabado

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,732

Waste of a line, imo.

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