I mean, Peyton Manning whines and makes faces and points fingers at his receivers when he's faced with adversity, but I don't think Indy has any regrets about taking him #1 overall

You're asking what the scouting report is on a hypothetical matchup with LSU or Alabama. Really?

haha,

how has there been absolutely nothing yet itt about ricky williams

There is and you just missed it.

no I was asking about the scouting report on him overall. I was wondering how he'd do against lsu or alabama. it's not like they play defense in the pac 12.

holy jesus, you're right

i suck.

RB >>> Center, >> Guards, >> Safeties, > LBs. I'd take an elite RB ahead of an elite player at every position except QB, LT, WR, CB, or DE.

Elite RB isn't elite if you don't have a good center, guards and RT. Not to mention elite RB doesn't remain elite for very long.

Notsureifserious if you think RB>safety. Maybe you haven't been a fan of a team with bad safeties, it doesn't go well.

Seahawks fan, so yes

Answered No and No in my poll.

In retrospect, I would like to change my answer. I don't think Luck is any better, but if I could trade my #1 overall pick for a first round top 10 and at least one pick in every other round (hopefully more in picks in at least one round) I'do do that, so my revised answer is:

No and Yes

No, Yes.

Opportunity cost of giving up that many picks is too high.

And tying up that much "value" into a solitary asset (even if I did believe the vlaue of 7 picks is the same as Luck) is potentially disastrous utility if major injuries occur (which are certainly likely in the NFL).

In this scenario, it's better to spread your assets out. Hell, even if we KNEW he was gonna be a top 5 QB I still wouldn't do it for the same concerns. And we don't even know that yet.

Rounds 1-7 isn't as valuable as 2-3 first rounders and change, which is the minimum he is worth. Any team with the #1 pick would snap decline rounds 1-7.

(last one is for WRs)

so with a one selection each round you would draft, on avg, 1.6 players who makes the pro bowl multiple times.

but a non-QB pro bowler isn't nearly as valuable as a QB pro bowler, and can't turn around a franchise like an elite QB.

I feel like the Colts would and should parlay the 1st overall pick into a massive package, but the Dolphins definitely won't if they get it.

This is an obvious Yes. Not even considering that Luck is one of the most highly rated prospects ever, the straight value chart says Yes if you have from 4th pick on. To me, only becomes a question if you duplicate the actual Ricky Williams trade. Two 1sts, two 3rds, and 4-7. Even then, think it is a pretty clear Yes.

Then Luck gets hit by a bus and dies.

What about entire draft + Tony Romo if the Dolphins have the first pick and Jerry feels lucky? Or say Colts on the clock and Redskins offer entire draft + 2013 first. Assume both have the 15th pick in each scenario and actually have a pick each round (in case they don't) . These would be tempting to take imo. Especially if I'm getting Romo.

ADP doesn't have any of those and i'm pretty sure he is still elite, same with Forte and probably some others i'm missing

Cool, then I get the No. 1 pick next year!

When you look at teams like Buffalo who've done a fantastic job of unearthing undrafted skill players - Fred Jackson obviously being at the top of that list - and you realize just how ridiculously large the ratio of football players to available NFL roster spots actually is, does it surprise anyone else that draft picks on the whole are still as vaunted and coveted as they are?

Ok say Arizona gets it and asks for draft + Von Miller. Call or ??? Assume here you have the 5th pick.

Arizona would draft luck in a heartbeat

You def do it

lol a lot of fancy words and not much of a point, with no actual arguments or data. And you're wrong. nice.

You realize this post is basically saying "more players are better than fewer players because there are more of them and the variance is lower," and that's basically all you said, right?


There were rumors that Luck would've been the #1 player taken if he declared after his redshirt freshman season. I have a few posts from 2009 talking about how he's the best passing quarterback in the country, should be on heisman lists, etc.

He basically turned Stanford (STANFORD) from a cellar dweller into powerhouse, he plays sick in easy games, in tough games, against sick defenses, against no defenses, and his linemen and RBs have been great but his WRs have been mediocre to bad and he makes them look like world beaters.

I watched a lot of Matt Ryan in college, and he's significantly better.

All you need to know:

tackling

passing

running (god this one hurts to watch)

receiving