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On what basis is USA > England? Last World Cup aside they,ve lost close games or penalty shoot outs to top sides, I don't recall USA going deep or putting in close games vs anyone decent

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10-17-2013 , 11:35 AM

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lolEngland. Get beaten by the US in the most important tournament? Have worse results in meaningless friendlies against the top countries? Never do anything in any big tournament? Ignore it all! Claim dominance!

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10-17-2013 , 11:36 AM

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The US isn't better than England and LK has definitely over-rated the US.

The US is a tough team for a lot of nations and can get results against good nations. But, they won't be a favorite to beat the better nations. Everything is draw dependent for the WC, so, like DB said, the US could go out in the group stage or the US could make a run. They have the talent to make a QF run again, but would then possibly get curb stomped by a nation with a potent attack (seriously, Colombia would be a nightmare for the US defense)

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10-17-2013 , 11:39 AM

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On what basis is USA > England?

Revolutionary War.

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10-17-2013 , 11:42 AM

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Revolutionary War.

* 1776

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10-17-2013 , 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Krayz

lolEngland. Get beaten by the US in the most important tournament?

nope

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Have worse results in meaningless friendlies against the top countries?

n-o-p-e

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Never do anything in any big tournament?

nope

usa are slight dogs to make it out of the group stage and noted poster tut is the voice of reason in here /thread

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10-17-2013 , 11:54 AM

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lol, TuT's just emotionally hedging for when he fully jumps on the Chile bandwagon. should really just be posting with val in their STST.

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10-17-2013 , 11:55 AM

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nope

lol if you're gonna quote things from '66.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...IFA_World_Cup)

And obviously finishing with more points in the group stage is clearly being better

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10-17-2013 , 11:57 AM

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This WC is a great opportunity to put ourselves on the map. No respect

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10-17-2013 , 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by acoustics

Revolutionary War.

lol A+

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10-17-2013 , 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theshocker7

On what basis is USA > England? Last World Cup aside they,ve lost close games or penalty shoot outs to top sides, I don't recall USA going deep or putting in close games vs anyone decent

If only there was a collection of teams, or group, where they all played common opponents to see who would advance in a competition:

Spoiler:

oh wait

And this years team is better than 2010. Significantly.

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10-17-2013 , 12:02 PM

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nope

hmmmm who won the group?

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10-17-2013 , 12:03 PM

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and BAIDS is just trying to retroactively justify his English flag tattoo.

People do stupid things when they're drunk, man. Don't let it stop you from participating in the traditional English orgy of self-loathing.

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10-17-2013 , 12:08 PM

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if you'd been paying sufficient attention to the bayern munich thread then you'd know my view on tattoos

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10-17-2013 , 12:10 PM

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That you've found it hard to pick up law/med school types and goddammit that flag tattoo's to blame?

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10-17-2013 , 12:14 PM

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current gf is doing a neuroscience phd @ cambridge & ucl, suck on that bootshoes

(mainly ucl tho unfortunately which is where lolzaids went)

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10-17-2013 , 12:16 PM

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This just seems delusional.

USA is not even remotely comparable to France. Benzema may not be all that, but he's loads better than anything playing in North America. Ribery is a boss. Behind them there's plenty of talent.

Russia, Uruguay, England, Switzerland, Greece, etc. are all more talented than the US and generally better organized too. Sure England is overrated and delusional, but it's still gonna beat USA 7-8 out of 10 times.

Against teams like Spain or Brazil or Italy the USA can park the bus and fight, but the technical difference is serious. The US has perhaps a handful of players that would even play on the national sides in Spain or Brazil (I can't think of one, though). Against Germany I don't see USA as having a hope because parking the bus won't help so much because of how Germany plays.

I think you don't know what you're talking about. You are arguing as though this was the US team 20 years ago; taking ~80% of points from a team is a massive, massive advantage.

In my opinion, US would take >50% points from England. Because they are better.

But I guess all this will be decided come World Cup time, because I will load up on the USA, and let the chips fall where they may.

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10-17-2013 , 12:19 PM

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agree that 7-8 is a little much since team usa aren't worthless

would be more like 6 wins & 4 draws.

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10-17-2013 , 12:19 PM

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I properly rate us. I think our team matches up well with your disappointing collection of superior talent. This same argument pops up every cycle when the haters invade the thread. it's why i become hipsterkanen and disappear. God forbid someone in the USMNT thread has confidence in the USMNT.

ROCK FLAG EAGLE

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10-17-2013 , 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BAIDS

current gf is doing a neuroscience phd @ cambridge & ucl, suck on that bootshoes

a brief rebuttal: neuroscience is just a fad, England sucks, you're stupid and your face is stupid, USA #1.

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10-17-2013 , 12:27 PM

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you want to talk fads, usa soccerball is the faddiest thing going at the moment. doubt more than 50% of the poasters itt will keep following if the most likely outcome (usa fail to qualify out of their group) comes to pass.

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10-17-2013 , 12:29 PM

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But I guess all this will be decided come World Cup time....

Mmmmno. 100-hand sample, maybe.

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10-17-2013 , 12:36 PM

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by the way im obv not referring to yourself, mw, f60, mmbt and many more who clearly love soccerball and have a great deal of knowledge about the sport, and who contribute extensively to the soccer threads. i'm talking about noze types who will quickly fall away once the gloss wears off.

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10-17-2013 , 12:38 PM

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hurt that you would belittle my compatriot Noze's rigorous insight and record of excellent soccerball posting.

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10-17-2013 , 12:39 PM

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US comes in last place in its WC group in 2006 and the next two world cups the US purchases more tickets than any other country besides the hosts. Yeah, soccer in the US is probably just a fad...

http://theoriginalwinger.com/2009-05...p-ticket-sales

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2...-other-nation/

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Don't care who that comment was aimed it it is still a stupid comment.