Yeah but if you're always expecting the unexpected then you'll expect the unexpected when it's time for something unexpected and it won't be expected when the expected happens

Absolute joke how much of a coronation this is for Kam. This episode has nothing to do with her and in the first five minutes, she says “i want Theresa out”. At that point, Theresa was definitely going out. This isnt fun

It’s definitely funky that there are two woman skulls up for grabs compared to none for men.

I would have said that there will eventually be a co-ed elimination but it is too complicated to make a prediction. They can do almost anything and people will have to live with it

Kaycee should have jumped to Faysal. It’s too late in the game. Staying with Leroy is too risk averse

There's been 2 injuries and a pregnancy on the girls side, one of which already had a skull, just the one quitter on the guys. With the girls going first (Nat v Ashley) and that elim essentially being nullified, their hands were kind of tied based on the format/rogue agent.

They need to change the rules to make everyone have to compete. It should be you need to win an elimination to get to the final, and the winner of the challenge goes into the elimination, but gets to choose who they go up against.

There needs to be an incentive to win, and these challenges are awful, I fast forward through all of them. I want to watch something with a definitive scoring system, or winner loser so I can root for who I want. The falling off the truck stuff is dumb for viewing purposes.

There are so many ways the challenge could be improved, the wasted potential is epic.

They set up these great eliminations sometimes, but then rather than letting us watch an entertaining event, we get a montage of video editing, going backwards and forwards in time so we have no idea what's happening, mixed with commentaries that vaguely tell us what's happening, then a bunch of special effects, and then SURPRISE! Somebody won. Leroy vs Jay was a great example of an event that would've been fun to watch in real time, rather than the garbage way they showed it. They show events all the time in such a way that we really have no idea how well people did, then TJ announces a winner. It's a terrible presentation style.

Like how does somebody write a TV show where we watch a 40something Aneesa fly a drone?

Eventually we'll get something really fun like a CT vs Fessy hall brawl, and they'll just give a jumbled up montage with a bunch of cuts to Kam shrieking about being a killa.

VALID CRITICISMS ITT

An hour and a half is tooooo damnnnnn loooooong

Does anyone even know why Darrell beat Nam?
Darrell answered more correct? Did they get asked the same amount of questions even?

And we neeeeed more info on being a Whopper VIP

Maybe I'm getting old but I just think the modern cast basically sucks, has been going in that direction for awhile but without a Bananas/Wes/Jordan vet presence there, the show just revolves around way too many IG thots talking about putting some respect on their names. Bananas pointed this out awhile ago, these people are just so basic now.

Well if you say what you really feel, MTV bans you

Nany was like a robot this episode. It’s clear she hates Theresa. But she does so many seasons over and over shes conditoned to only say “we have to get theresa out. She’s a threat”.

Ehh, I think Nany's issue with Theresa is more competition based. She knows Theresa would smoke her in a final. Yeah Theresa isn't some legend but for this girls cast, she is probably the best for a final besides LoLo and maybe Kaycee (havent seen enough from her)

Theresa did pretty well in the final with Leroy in Exes 2 but Jordan/Sarah smoked them which makes sense since Jordan is basically the finals goat.

Theresa husband ex-NFL player and she's a mom, exercise seems like a big part of her life. Nany basically lives on booze and cigs.

If Nany doesn't sleep with anyone during a season, is there a point of having her on?

Also we have no reason to believe Lolo would be great in a final. She was a sproint athlete, and the finals are almost always long endurance events. Very different training and talents

I'd imagine Lolo kills these girls in cardio regardless of her specific sport. Where she would likely struggle is puzzles, eating and all those other equalizers but I've noticed that when people on the show talk about the final and who can win in it, they mostly break it down based on cardio rather than anything else. CT is really good at all the other stuff but people aren't that scared of seeing him in a final these days because he got so fat.

Yeaaah. It was purely competition based when T playfully jabbed at her in deliberation and Nany lost her **** for a minute

Toxic T tried to make moves in the game too though

Theresa putting Ashley vs Kam in an elim was a good call. They are both strong competitors in a final. Somehow all the girls hated her after it. I dont know why she went to Kam before it though to tell her she wouldnt put her in, that served no purpose.

The point about the terrible editing is spot on. They don't show a continuous camera shot for longer than 5 seconds, we have no idea what is happening.

yep theresa knew she was going in and was poking at nany who lost her mind

was pretty ridiculous for all the toxic t talk when all she did was make a game move and kam got her skull out of it

these people know they need to go into an elimination to win right

Her and Nam got like 7th in the 5 mile run. I don't think she's as big a favorite in an endurance comp over Kaycee and others as her status as an Olympic athlete would make you believe.

Also, to Jordan being the finals goat, I'd be super curious to see a Jordan vs Darrell vs Landon, all in their primes, final. I think those 3 are a bit ahead of the other winners in terms of finals performance.

Agree with the comments on the editing. Also the challenges themselves have been pretty terrible. The drone was the nut low but a close second was the guys all hanging onto the bag and not even trying to push each other off. Even the trivia challenge was weaker than in the past, they mostly just ended up jumping off on their own. Half the fun is watching them get dropped as soon as TJ hits the button.

Cast really weak also, needs Bananas. Feels like most of the vets are really getting too old for this (CT, Aneesa) and none of the rookies stand out (Meechie, black guy from America's Got Talent (already forgot his name), both Ambers, etc.) Some of the other top-tier players like Fessy and Kaycee are athletic but dull. Only rookies worth bringing back are Natalie and maybe Gabby just for hotness factor.

Punishing CT for winning the challenge in the pond against Nam by randomly making Big T go against Kam was the worst imo. Honestly between the risk of injury and stupid variables like that there is really not much incentive to try in some of these especially if you already have a skull.

Lolo just seems very soft.

I dont know. I thought that was a logical tiebreaker in the CT/Big T situation. It’s better than flipping a coin