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12-24-2016 , 04:15 PM
Def a chance. Jacobs has legit power (see quillin fight on YouTube) . I bet GGG will be like four to one maybe but I'm also dumb so who knows
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12-24-2016 , 04:21 PM
Whilst we're talking odds, interesting to see that Wlad is over 2/1 to beat big Josh.
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12-24-2016 , 04:26 PM
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12-24-2016 , 05:12 PM
Matthew Macklin you jammy bastard. That's Kate Abdo for the yanks, she's a Sky Sports presenter.

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12-24-2016 , 05:21 PM
That's not a good picture of her. She is lovely.
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12-24-2016 , 07:49 PM
I guess that its true that hot chicks often like gangsters.
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12-25-2016 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by x_ROSH125_x
Artur Beterbiev seems like some kind of a beast. Saw him for the first time yesterday
He looks really good. Hoping we can get him vs Stevenson at some point, that would be a fun fight.

I think his defense is too weak for Ward/Kovalev, but who knows, that's why they fight the fights.

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I haven't seen Daniel Jacobs fight before. He's currently #2 at 160 and is fighting Golovkin in March. Is there any chance of an upset? There isn't a market yet on betfair.
I don't think there's much of a chance. Golovkin's chin is well tested and Jacobs isn't a hit and duck kind of fighter. Golovkin will tag him, and his chin isn't great.

Jacobs has good boxing skills and some power, but I don't think he's is the type of fighter with a real shot against GGG at 160lbs.

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Originally Posted by Consty
Whilst we're talking odds, interesting to see that Wlad is over 2/1 to beat big Josh.
I think it's Joshua's time. Wlad looked pretty bad vs Jennings, and even worse vs Fury. It's likely no coincidence, he's 40 years old and Joshua is too big to bully and too good to outsmart.

Povetkin and Pulev were just oversized, and Leapai and Pianetta were not in the same league skillwise.

The only hesitation is "Joshua hasn't fought many good opponents at this level" and "Joshua was rocked by Whyte and didn't look right for a few minutes." Those are not very big ifs in my book. We're seeing time and again, a solid eye test is worth a lot. Golovkin, Usyk, Gassiev, Crawford. Joshua looks more like them than the numerous busts. I'd say Parker can still go either way.

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12-25-2016 , 08:50 AM
I think Jacobs has a better chance than anybody GGG has fought in the past.

GGG had trouble when Brook was attacking him from angles instead of straight on. You could see the frustration on his face when Brook wasn't directly in front of him.

I think Jacobs eventually gets worn down and KO'd but he will make GGG look human.
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12-25-2016 , 04:27 PM
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I think Jacobs has a better chance than anybody GGG has fought in the past.

GGG had trouble when Brook was attacking him from angles instead of straight on. You could see the frustration on his face when Brook wasn't directly in front of him.

I think Jacobs eventually gets worn down and KO'd but he will make GGG look human.
I mean, he wasn't happy about it but he still broke his face amd ended him in 5. Scoring points against GGG only matters if you can withstand his power, and no one right now is doing that.
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12-25-2016 , 11:45 PM
Jacobs is a true MW. Brook was a blown-up WW. He won't get hurt as easily as Brook did.
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12-26-2016 , 02:11 AM
Brook hit him with some very short shots. Those punches are never powerful, you sacrifice power when you shoot a very short quick shot.

As far as taking damage, I don't think Jacobs has any better of a chin than Macklin or Geale or Stevens or Rosado or Murray. It's going to be a rough night for Jacobs.

Golovkin was -500 against Proska, I don't expect he'll be narrower vs Jacobs.

Edit: He's opening around -800 it appears - http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/6...t-over-the-top

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12-26-2016 , 02:29 AM
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Jacobs is a true MW. Brook was a blown-up WW. He won't get hurt as easily as Brook did.
Jacobs got knocked down by Mora...
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12-26-2016 , 07:08 AM
to fight sergio mora twice after his big win over quillin is pretty disgraceful. def didn't help him with GGG

appears i was wrong on the odds. gotta say though i would prob put a punt on jacobs at +800...wasn't brook only like 3.5-1? lol
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12-26-2016 , 08:52 AM
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Brook hit him with some very short shots. Those punches are never powerful, you sacrifice power when you shoot a very short quick shot.

As far as taking damage, I don't think Jacobs has any better of a chin than Macklin or Geale or Stevens or Rosado or Murray. It's going to be a rough night for Jacobs.

Golovkin was -500 against Proska, I don't expect he'll be narrower vs Jacobs.

Edit: He's opening around -800 it appears - http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/6...t-over-the-top
Dog or pass at those odds obviously.

I do think Jacobs has a solid punches chance so I'll probably throw some $ on him, but I think he'll need to get things done quick cuz I think his chin is too much of a liability. Jacobs needs another Quillin-like performance basically or I see him getting stopped within 3-5 rounds.
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12-26-2016 , 03:33 PM
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I do think Jacobs has a solid punches chance so I'll probably throw some $ on him, but I think he'll need to get things done quick cuz I think his chin is too much of a liability. Jacobs needs another Quillin-like performance basically or I see him getting stopped within 3-5 rounds.
Pretty accurate assessment imo.

We pretty much know how a fight is gonna go after the first round or two. GGG always uses the first round to feel out an opponent rather than be super-aggressive and go for the win then. If Jacobs can take that opportunity away from him and come at him aggressively, maybe he can throw GGG off and make it a fight. But if GGG is in control after the first round or two, he can decide when to end it.
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12-26-2016 , 03:54 PM
Chris Eubank JR PPV fight is going to cost £20. For that there better be the GOAT undercard...
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12-29-2016 , 02:52 AM
Jacobs' press quotes make me feel like betting Golovkin is smart, heavy favorite and all.

He sounds like he just took a paycheck and is like "well, you never know, right? I could hit him with a lucky shot..." (not his actual words*)
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12-29-2016 , 09:17 AM
if odds are close to 50/50 for jacobs not lasting past 6 rounds like they were for the brook fight i will be all over that again (on GGG side). but if jacobs closes at 8-1 or whatever i will def put a bit on him for a bit of a fun sweat if anything else
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12-29-2016 , 11:22 AM
I still can't believe some people thought Brook had a shot to beat GGG
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12-30-2016 , 12:14 AM
Mostly deluded UK fans thought Brook had a shot.

Brook wisely figured that the expectations were so low for him that fighting GGG was essentially a freeroll for his career.
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12-30-2016 , 07:58 PM
Watching Brook absolutely light GGG up in the first two rounds and GGG just do that "good boy" nod and motion forward has to be so demoralizing for Brook (assuming he actually thought he had a chance).

Like the Foreman quote about the RitJ: "I had him up against the ropes and hit him with a couple big body shots and Ali said to me 'Is that all you got George' and I thought 'Yep, that's about it'"
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12-31-2016 , 04:07 PM


Mesmerising Mayweather. GOAT defence.


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12-31-2016 , 08:38 PM
would really like to see crawford beat pacman thoroughly and then have floyd come out of retirement and face bud



*not necessarily convinced crawford would beat pacman btw think manny has a real fighting chance
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01-03-2017 , 02:33 AM
Awesome videos HH. I watched the Clay one on mute the first time and was like "holy hell he actually started shooting at him?" Great stuff.

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Watching Brook absolutely light GGG up in the first two rounds and GGG just do that "good boy" nod and motion forward has to be so demoralizing for Brook (assuming he actually thought he had a chance).
In all fairness, rewatch that round, better yet the post round slow mo. Only the left hook really lands powerfully. The rest is short and/or hitting GGG on the gloves. Lit up is a bit of an exaggeration given GGG won the round with some real work to the body and head in the corner that hurt Brook, and a few other nice shots throughout the round that equaled everything Brook did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onai-Fw5RZY (starts at ~9:15).

Also keep it on mute, lol, british crowd + announcers doesn't make for easy verification of landed shots, it's like a Manny fight pre outspoken homophobe days where Manny shuffles to the left and the crowd screams.

RD 2 was Kell though, solid left upper cut was nice. That right hand was short and a bit pushed though, not a lot on it.

Edit - Fun fight to rewatch. Round 5 is just brutal, GGG brings out the hammer.

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01-05-2017 , 10:57 AM
according to BLH ward is thinking about retiring rather than rematching kov


eff that guy
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