Looking forward to Canelo/Trout way way more than anyone thats not MP fighting PBF.

I really disagree with this big time...

Mayweather vs Castillo was a split dec and some would say Castillo won (I don't think he did )Cotto vs Mayweather was close to a shut out... judge: Robert Hoyle 118-110 | judge: Patricia Morse Jarman 117-111 | judge: Dave Moretti 117-111 ...watch the fight again with no sound ,it was not close at all

I think people seem to think Cotto gave him a good fight cause he caught Floyd with some decent jabs(yes ,JUST jabs)that bloodied Floyds nose,that was it ...hence the scoring from ALL judges that I agree on.

Cotto is 100% way past his best ,i would say he is 60%-70% now vs when he was at his best

On a side note I do believe Floyd will start slipping now due to age etc,anyone remember the days we all thought Roy Jones could never lose ...then all of a sudden ,bang ...Floyd and RJJ are that good for the same reasons ,so Floyd will end up going the same way as him...which will make his next few fights interesting,who is going to be the lucky guy and get Floyd when he rolls over ?

I am 99% sure Canelo does not fight Cotto next ,makes no sense for many reasons.The Trout fight is the best options ,I just hope it happens...Obviously they are putting Canelo on the same card as Floyd to set up a year end fight between the two,which again would be great

can you explain the reasons canelo doesn't fight cotto? cuz to me I have always been under the impression the most important reason by far is monnnnnney and that fight has it every time in may.

true or false- cotto/canelo makes more money than canelo/trout


if the answer is false than I have been arguing poorly this whole time. I don't see Trout/Canelo making as much money even though ti is a better fight competitively. I don't think that is how boxing works. I could be wrong!

canelo is gonna make more money and have an easier time with cotto in a more action packed fight than if he fought trout. That seems like a super snap call for canelo's camp. I don't get this trout/canelo talk just yet. It would fly in the face of the strategy canelo has been using in picking opponents his whole career.


edit- as the number 1 cotto fanboi on the site I think he is obviously on the downhill but not exactly completely shot if some say that. Margarito illegallly assaulted him with those gloves and he won't ever be the same but both the mayweather and the trout fights were not bad fights. He didn't beat Floyd but gave him a good fight that floyd hadn't seen in YEARS. Trout fight he just lost a boxing match to a better, younger, defensive, longer, bigger fighters. He won 4-5 rounds probably and didn't get battered. Cotto is still dangeous imo. I just don't get when you say you are 99% sure canelo and cotto wont' fight next what you mean demetri. Cuz the money is there unless i'm mistaken. Now maybe you think Cotto would get slaughtered, but that doesn't matter if it maeks more money than Trout/Canelo

So you are basically saying you think Cotto/Canelo won't happen in May where all the money is at right now (cinco-de-mayo)and maybe some other time? You wanna see Cotto get a quality win or basically retire if he can't do that whereas Canelo finally beats a legit opponent in trout. IF Cotto wins and Trout loses to Canelo that is when the Cotto/Canelo mega fight will occur in your mind? You don't think there is enough interest to do this fight right now? Cotto isn't gettin any better and it seems to me Canelo is unproven but will still be a huge draw in May as will Cotto. I think it can happen. But I think I see what you are saying. Maybe a big fight in December or something. I still think Cotto could conceivably challenge Trout if it ever comes to that but the money right now says that fight is far far away if ever happening. Canelo should destroy cotto but it will make a lot of money


canelo beating cotto in may than trout in november or december would make for an epic legitimate right with Floyd

I'm NOT saying it was as competitive as Castillo 1 (which Castillo won imo) i'm saying Cotto gave Floyd more trouble than anyone since Castillo.

Cotto-Mayweather certainly was competitive despite it being a very clear victory for Floyd. But who did more damage and won more rounds against Floyd than Cotto? Oscar? Imo not even close.

And bodyshots. Who gave him a better fight? Please tell me.

I gave Cotto 4 rounds fwiw. I gave Oscar 3. Cotto did more damage.

Yeah he's past his best but so is the case with most on the top10 p4p. There's a huge difference between washed up and being past your prime.

No, they are not the same imo. Floyd is extremely intelligent in the ring and technically sound. He rely on speed, sure, but that's all that Roy did. Roy didn't have great technical ability, he was a monster athlete.

Why would cinco the mayo be a great date for Cotto Canelo when Floyd has had that date for the past few years and most likely will fight a mexican-american on that date?
Cotto-Canelo is a headliner on it's own ppv. Not as a feeder for Floyd-Guerrero.

And yeah i'm obviously speaking as a fan of the sport rather than someone that care how much money Canelo have in the bank.

Cotto vs Angulo would be a fun crossroads fight.

I still disagree with a lot of the above ,can give another 10+ more reasons to why.But some of it will never be fact and only ones view

On another note just for the Canelo and Cotto talk ...Cotto would not want to fight Canelo on May the 4th anyway ,yes as someone said above money talks etc etc ,but from what I know of Cotto he would look past the money on this one

Also saying it is where the money is ,Cotto is coming of a loss and not to great form .Even your avg boxing fan will know this ,so it is not a great money spinner either

Canelo vs Trout ,if Canelo wins he fights Mayweather (as long as he don't roll over in his next fight,remember I said it is coming soon)in Sept....and it also leaves the door open for them to make a lot more money with a Cotto fight later in the year...Cotto needs to hand pick his next fight ,get a decent win back under his belt ...so if the Mayweather fight vs Canelo does not happen he can then fight Canelo at the end of the year and get full value for the fight

Why not ,I like it

I remember watching this live ,for me it was the closest anyone has come to beating Floyd since his fight with Castillo ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtyDlsOO98A

I know people like Cotto and Oscar have won SOME rounds of him ,but all of them fights have just been a few rounds with Floyd winning the other 9-10 rounds

The above clip I remember jumping out of my chair and thinking he has a chance to stop him here .Winning a few rounds here and there of Floyd never made me jump up and think he may lose tonight

Angulo is like Margarito except with a weaker chin and less power. He just walks in dead on into every fighter face first. He sucks.

Perfect ,Cotto is now coming of 2 loses and he is not at his best anymore

gotta say the Mosley punch shocked me more. Floyd really does have a decent chin.

Yeah,I must say I remember that night just for that punch.I jumped up and shouted,stood up for the rest of the round.

But from what I remember it was just a clean shot with a dip of the legs ,the Corley fight hurt him more imo

I just noticed we get ESPN USA now here in U.K

So I get all Friday night fights live and all the other boxing on ESPN USA ,kinda over the moon about that tbh (we always had ESPN here ,just not ESPN USA)

unfortunately friday night fights *is* all the other boxing on espn


at least in the american version

We have ESPN ,but it is not the ESPN that shows Friday Night Fights etc.It just showed lots of U.K sports ...kinda of a ESPN U.K vs the ESPN USA they have just added

Weve had ESPN USA for a long time now IIRC.

Ricky Burns is fighting Miguel Vazquez. Competitive fight but probably a stinker.

Froch/Kessler confirmed, date and venue tbc. Pretty sure it will be Notts, around April? That would set up a Ward rematch later in the year.

Froch wrote on twitter today something along the lines of ...

"London has nice weather in May"

So I am betting it will be at the 02 ,which would be a amazing venue for a big fight like that .I guess Wembley makes sense to ,but loads of football events around that time

How sad is this ...

Steve Collins has revealed he could come out of a 16-year retirement to fight Roy Jones Jr.

Ireland's former WBO middleweight and super middleweight champion last fought in 1997.

He always wanted to take on the great American, with the fight almost coming to fruition on a number of occasions in the 1990s.

Collins, now 48, told TalkSport: "It's not a comeback as such, at my age I'm too old for that, but it will be the end of a 15-year grudge.

"It's a fight Roy Jones needs. He claims to be one of the greatest pound-for-pound fighters around but he refused to fight me.

"I was very happy with my career, but the one fight I wanted was Roy Jones, and when that didn't happen I retired. To me he was afraid of me. I don't think he's a coward, but at the time he was!

"But now it's happening. I spoke to Roy and we're going to get it on. He wants one more fight before he retires and this is the one he wants. If we get a good offer we'll split it down the middle and get it on.

"I would like 10-12 weeks to get ready. In my mind I already see how that fight goes and I can see the outcome. I feel like I've never been away. I'm looking forward to it."

Collins insists the fight should be taken seriously, despite their ages.

"This is still a match," he added. "We're the same generation. I wouldn't even consider fighting a guy 15 or 20 years younger than me, because that's not a match. But we're the same age and this is a fair match. It won't be any different to how it would have been 15 years ago.

"I'd love the fight to be in the UK but there is interest from Dubai, Russia, China. Dubai looks the favourite, but we'll have to see where the offers come from.

"Hopefully we'll get an offer that's suitable for us both and we get it on. It will give all old-timers some hope! "I've got medical tests arranged and if I don't get a 100% pass form the doctors, then forget it.

"There's no way I'll fight if I don't get the all-clear."

Jones jr last fought in June last year, beating Poland's Pawel Glazewski in Lodz.

http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/new...terfeed_Boxing


On a good note,the Ricky burns night at Wembley is looking like a great bill...

Also expected to appear on the Wembley Arena card are Nathan Cleverly, George Groves and Dereck Chisora.

On another sad note ...

WBA welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi will reportedly face Shane Mosley on April 27 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, NY. Mosley is coming out of retirement for the fight.

Would be cool in London. I would probably go see that one

Does anyone in the UK watch KOTV on C4?

They had footage of Oscar Dela Hoya's 1992 pro debut

He was so skinny and his speed was amazing

Tomorrow's HBO card should be really exciting. 3 great fights. I don't watch much featherweight action I have only seen Salido fight the two Lopez fights and only seen Garcia's last couple fights on HBO cards. Garcia -300 I guess, kind of surprised it would open like that but I don't know much about boxing odds