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i def drank too much last night

i got excited when maidana started strong

need to rewatch


broner looked like complete garbage and i had him winning 6-4. khan looked pretty fine although i think collazo might have been overrated coming in based on some LOLORTIZ but who knows. i like khan a lot but he has always looked elite when the other guy can't hit him in the chin. idk. maidana is my dude but i did not expect anything more than like a 10-2 floyd victory. not sure what this means for floyd right about now


apparently a rematch is likely for september

Kind of wondering if Floyd fought like that intentionally to make the fight entertaining.

Sure wouldn't be able to do that against Manny.

Floyd's problem was he wouldn't get off the ropes due to Maidana constantly moving forward.

The biggest thing to realize is that styles make fights. PBF can dominate elite fighters who are good at one thing and have problems against others.

I'm not that interested in a rematch because for Maidana to win he needs a KO. At no point in the fight did he rock Floyd or even get in a good hit as far as I could tell.

Floyd will never fight Manny at this point either so he'll have a couple more fights and call it a day. I think his legacy is fine. His fighting resume is hardly a bunch of chumps and his willingness to fight guys like Canelo, Cotto, and Maidana late in his career (and dominate) cannot be ignored.

That fight was so frustrating to watch. Maidana would have won if that idiot ref hadn't needlessly separated them every time Maidana had Floyd on the ropes.

Same thing that people complained about when Hatton fought Money.

I feel like he's always been a questionable ref with the way he handles some of his matches, whatever his name is can't forget a face. Floyd seems to tie up a lot, feel like a good ref lets him know stop tying up, fight but whatevs.

I'm sure most of you know but IFL TV has a whole host of fighter interviews from the weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/user/iFilmLdnProductions

lol@ Floyd being close to SRR. He's the GOAT by such a margin Floyd would need to move up another cpl weight classes and not duck the best guys to even be in the conversation.

Even if we stay with modern time boxers Floyd would have no shot at having the best career.

Ray Leonard beat:

Tommy Hearns
Marvin Hagler
Roberto Duran
All of whom are "better" than a Pac win would be by a good margin.

He also beat Wilfred Benitez who are most likely better than any win Floyd have currently on his record.

Pac of DLH/Hatton/Cotto run would be a better win that any of those (assuming it was 116-112 or better). SRL lost to Duran, was behind against Hearns and the Hagler win was controversial. Pac is getting underrated here. He's outstanding now, and his run 3 to 4 years ago was extraordinary.

Ray Leonard also beat Duran.
What does being behind have to do with the quality of his Hearns win? If anything it makes it greater that he dug down deep and came back and stopped him.

Just rewatched it, did anyone else think it was a draw? I had it 116-116. Rounds 2,3, 8,10 I had as draws. 6, 7,9, 12 to Mayweather, and 1,4,5,11 to maidana.

You could make a case for Maidana winning. I had it 115-113 MM. But it's one of those that if somebody thought Money won, then I could see it and wouldn't go ape**** over it.

I scored it 7-5 F but wouldn't have had any issue with 6-6

Just caught up on the fights, good stuff.

- Fell asleep during Broner fight, woke up to see scores. I think I was as interested in this fight as Broner was. Though in fairness, he wanted to rematch Maidana, and given how each has looked in their last two fights, Maidana is probably the favorite in that rematch.

- Nothing bad to say about Khan. I don't like the guy at all, but he fought a smart fight. He moved in and out of the pocket well. He got his clutching lessons from Wlad, though honestly Collazo wasn't doing nearly enough effectively when he got inside to complain. He totally got schooled and thrown off his game. Khan looked a lot better in this fight than recently. The chin is still a question, but really always is going to be a question given his history. Collazo didn't really test it. I think he wobbled Khan once but Khan recovered fast. The two KDs late were kind of cheap, especially the first one, clear hold and punch, but didn't matter one bit. Khan was fast and effective.

- Floyd Maidana was really good. While some make the point that Floyd held a lot (he did), Maidana also threw a lot on the back of Floyd's head and below the belt. I thought Floyd won 7-5, but there were a number of close rounds on either side. I think Floyd's biggest issue was just that he didn't throw enough in some earlier rounds, not that Maidana was hurting him or all that effective. You see a lot of those replays, it's like the Cotto fight, just tons of punches constantly missing. Floyd certainly didn't dominate, but he controlled some key rounds, Maidana looked a bit gassed after such a fast start... I think Floyd could win 8-4 or 9-3 in a rematch if he throws a bit more (that was his problem in DLH fight, DLH wasn't really dominating a lot, but he won some super close rounds where Floyd just didn't throw).

I'd imagine Floyd will fight Khan in September. There's all this stuff about Khan not being able to fight in September due to Ramadan. If he can't, that's too bad, but it's a new problem for him because Khan has fought three times in September over his career and I don't think he's changed religions recently (apologies if he has).

Maidana rematch would be cool enough, but ultimately, I don't want to see a rematch or Khan fight compared to other options for Floyd (options that won't likely happen).

If Porter steamrolls Brook, that would be an interesting option.

While we're on the topic of LDO boxers that are better than Floyd, we all know he's the GOAT but the absolute brutality from 1:00 to 1:45 in this video coming from a WW/MW is just incredible. He's like Manny with other-worldly KO power:

Two points here. First, Ramadan moves every year (it follows a non-Gregorian calender) so his having fought in September in previous years doesn't really matter. Secondly, Ramadan is in July this year, not September

All last night did was reinvigorate my interest in Floyd/Pac. I need to stop setting myself up for heartbreak.

Who you guys see AB fighting next?

Rematch with Maidana if Floyd doesn't rematch him?

She's not gonna call bro, your ex has moved on

Thanks for pointing out that Ramadan moves each year, I had no idea.

The second point, I did not mean Ramadan is in September, I meant that (under my false assumption that Ramadan was around the same time every year) if he could fight in September after Ramadan before, why couldn't he this time? Of course, that was based on incorrect assumptions.

Ramadan ends 4-8 weeks before a potential Floyd fight in September, so a quick look at Amir's previous years of fighting shows that you'd have to go back to 2007 to find Amir fighting around similar times.

He fought October 6th and December 8th of 2007, Ramadan was September 13th to October 12th that year.

Apparently he didn't fast that time:

Not sure if this means he might be willing to forgo fasting to face Mayweather.

That's laughably debatable.



I had 7-5 Money. But accounting for maybe three rounds that could have been called the other way, as much as 8-4 Chino would be reasonable, I guess. I wouldn't agree though.

Don't particularly want a rematch.

Yea p4p is atrocious. Bradley clearly lost to Manny 1st time around and Manny was beating Marquez, close to a KO, when KTFO.

Bardley was a 2-1 dog going into Manny rematch, yet Bradley was ranked ahead on almost all p4p lists? GTFO is appropriate here!

P4P is tough enough already to be consistent with, but when you throw the Bradley ahead of Manny, it's almost a joke.

Bradley is a very good fighter, perhaps #3 at 140-147, but clearly not ahead of Manny, both before and after Manny-Bradley II.

agree with chicago here


manny would be at least a 2-1 fave over bradley again afaic, prob mroe


you know what would be ****in awesome woudl be maidana-matthyse(as everyone has been saying for years) or maidana/prov but thats almost impossible cuz of managers


i love maidana and don't mind him fighting floyd again but the real fight afaic is mattyhshe in an Argentinian brawwwwwl

I don't want to see a Maidana rematch. I think Floyd adjusts and mostly dominates like in the second Castillo fight.