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04-13-2008 , 12:36 PM
Seems like worst case scenario again. Manu wins the Premiership
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04-13-2008 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Entee
Seems like best case scenario again. Manu wins the Premiership

FYP
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04-13-2008 , 12:53 PM
how many **** chances do we want??

gg league
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04-13-2008 , 01:02 PM
arsenal = lol, liverpool thrid place anybody?
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04-13-2008 , 01:07 PM
I'm not saying anything.
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04-13-2008 , 01:10 PM
Arsenal REALLY needs Henry back imo
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04-13-2008 , 01:16 PM
Arsenal is like a 7ptbb winningplayer on a 25 stack downswing ;<
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04-13-2008 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cashy
Arsenal is like a 7ptbb winningplayer on a 25 stack downswing ;<
yea, I don't think that I'd compare arsenal to CTS or GreenPlastic or someone like that. they aren't that good
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04-13-2008 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by speedle
Arsenal REALLY needs Henry back imo
He would be better and is still very good but he is past his prime and will only get worse from now on.
He hasn't exactly had a great season either though a lot of that has to do with the style of La Liga.

But selling Henry at that point for a lot of money when you have three very talented strikers with a lot of upside was a good move I still think.

To make it the perfect move though you'd have to go all the way and actually TRUST that talent, which is something Wenger clearly hasn't done when it comes to the strikers.
Even before the Eduardo injury he was almost exclusively riding Adebayor and from watching Bendtner for a long time I'm certain that he is better than a non 100 percent Adebayor.
I'm sure Wenger thought Adebayor was so strong and so good that he could handle it but he just hasn't been able to and the warning signs were there for a while too, but was ignored.
I'm also a little suprised he hasn't at least tried Walcott as a striker like he did so well with the young Henry, who was very similar to Walcott in many ways when he joined Arsenal, but that probably comes down to Wenger not thinking he is physically strong enough yet.
But with Hleb and Fabregas creating the attack I really do think that to not succed you'd have to play as bad as Adebayor has in the 2nd half of the season. It's really quite an accomplishment when you think about it...
Playing in that kind of an attack should be every striker's dream and it took a total collapse to ruin it.
Bendtner, Walcott or just somebody very good brought in as an emergency, rotating with Adebayor, would have given much better results.
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04-13-2008 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Entee
Seems like worst case scenario again. Manu wins the Premiership
Well, if Arsenal can't get it done, at least the title will go to a real team that hasn't had to buy their history. After all, what fun is it to just spend for a championship. The first thing teams like that have to do is hand out nametags to the players at the start of training.
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04-13-2008 , 02:15 PM
Well as far as name tags go I think there have been fewer personal changes in the Chelsea squad in the last 3 years than the Arsenal one,

Could be totally wrong though, its just that when you watch Arse you are allways thinking "Who hell he?", as the manager of Arsenal is a martyr who would rather be seen not to be spending money on established players that actually winning any trophies.
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04-13-2008 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The once and future king
Well as far as name tags go I think there have been fewer personal changes in the Chelsea squad in the last 3 years than the Arsenal one,

Could be totally wrong though, its just that when you watch Arse you are allways thinking "Who hell he?", as the manager of Arsenal is a martyr who would rather be seen not to be spending money on established players that actually winning any trophies.
We're all masochists and Wenger is our chief.

Adebayor
Adebayorrrrrrrrrr
Give him the ball (20 times)
And he (might) scoreeeee

grumble grumble
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04-13-2008 , 02:23 PM
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Well as far as name tags go I think there have been fewer personal changes in the Chelsea squad in the last 3 years than the Arsenal one,

Could be totally wrong though, its just that when you watch Arse you are allways thinking "Who hell he?", as the manager of Arsenal is a martyr who would rather be seen not to be spending money on established players that actually winning any trophies.
That may be so. Arsenal is a different bird; take it or leave it. You see, when you develop your own players, there are times when there will be a lot of turnover of the first side, because certain players' times have come, and you ship out the ones that don't fit the team. Or, as some teams might do, you can buy, buy, buy and spend the next three years paring down the roster to see who fits.

We don't really ask "Who the hell he, because there is plenty of time to get acquainted through the youth program. In case you are wondering, its a program where younger players are sponsored and trained by the parent club.

(Chelsea Team Photo)



In any event, Arsenal didn't get the job done and it was disappointing. However, there is some pride in the fact we didn't have to sit around cheering for arch rivals to win in order to make up for the fact the team took a crap in September. Really, it is nice to take care of our business. Of course, we haven't been doing that too much lately, but that's the breaks.
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04-13-2008 , 02:28 PM
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when you develop your own players, there are times when there will be a lot of turnover of the first side, because certain players' times have come, and you ship out the ones that don't fit the team
Yes that is why your captain is one that you have brought up through the youth system just like Terry.

OH WAIT..........hmmm who did you buy your captain from again?
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04-13-2008 , 02:32 PM
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Yes that is why your captain is one that you have brought up through the youth system just like Terry.

OH WAIT..........hmmm who did you buy your captain from again?
I see he brought his "winning tradition" with him. Mistake. It will be addressed and corrected. The team will move on. Arsenal will be rightfully wary of these dodgy Chelsea players from now on.
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04-13-2008 , 02:38 PM
well, that was a soft penalty
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04-13-2008 , 02:39 PM
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OH WAIT..........hmmm who did you buy your captain from again?

singing we swapped a willy for a ****
singing we swapped a willy for a ****
we swapped a willy, we swapped a willy, we swapped a willy for a ****
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04-13-2008 , 02:40 PM
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well, that was a soft penalty
stndrd, but what is a joke is that gallas was talking about our "inexperience" when we conceded the pen agenst the scousers on tuesday, then he gives one away today. what a load of ballacks.
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04-13-2008 , 03:08 PM
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stndrd, but what is a joke is that gallas was talking about our "inexperience" when we conceded the pen agenst the scousers on tuesday, then he gives one away today. what a load of ballacks.
The point is that the ball should not be back in the Arse box so quickly from the restart.

Even pub team player gets coached that a team is most vulnerable after they have scored, yet Arse has forgotten this cardinal rule and it has cost them big.
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04-13-2008 , 03:46 PM
Arsenal completely bossed the game until Anderson and Tevez came on. When I saw the starting lineup I felt good, and we played well. We should have scored, but our finishing is woeful, especially Ade's, JESUS. That being said ManU had a few good chances as well. Rooney in particular, but Jens made some good saves. I thought Jens had a great game as well, because I don't think Almunia makes some of those saves.

Once Tevez and Anderson came on, game totally changed. At that point I was just praying we didn't wrecked. Gilberto had a decent game, but he had critical mistakes, which lead to the second goal. Song looked way out of place, but OK at the same time. Big gamble by Wenger starting him there, but it didn't result in any goals, but it could have.

The writing is on the wall for Wenger though, another season w/o a trophy. He has a lot of questions to answer, to all the fans, and he better do something about it.
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04-13-2008 , 05:01 PM
Good games today.

Liverpool took care of business as they should have. It looked a lot easier than I thought it was going to. Why would Mark Hughes play David Bentley in the middle against a quality side is beyond me. I didn't watch the whole match but in what I saw Bentley was not a factor.

Man U got lucky that Arsenal can't finish. That back four looked almost as dodgy as Arsenal's. I agree with those who say Tevez and Anderson should have started. I have a lot of respect for Scholes but he is clearly past his time in these big games.
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04-13-2008 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cashy
Arsenal is like a 7ptbb winningplayer on a 25 stack downswing ;<
I think its better put as a team that thinks its a 7ptbb winner because it ran really hot(and people always underestimate their good runs) but really is a 3ptbb winner, and now variance is catching up

Walcott needs to be starting, he's been so much better than Eboue
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04-13-2008 , 07:54 PM
At least our season is over in April, not in March like last year. That is a bit of an improvement. I think Arsenal's season started going down the hill after Eduardo's injury and that late penalty against Birmingham. Ever since that game, the team has been on a ran of bad luck.
My question is for the remaining 4 games should Arsene Wenger rest the tired regulars like Adebayor, Fabregas, Hleb... and just bleed the remaining young players in the squad? I don't think finishing third or fourth doesn't make a whole lot of difference. We would still have to play a qualifying round to get into next season's champions league.
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04-13-2008 , 08:00 PM
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Arsenal completely bossed the game until Anderson and Tevez came on. When I saw the starting lineup I felt good, and we played well. We should have scored, but our finishing is woeful, especially Ade's, JESUS. That being said ManU had a few good chances as well. Rooney in particular, but Jens made some good saves. I thought Jens had a great game as well, because I don't think Almunia makes some of those saves.

Once Tevez and Anderson came on, game totally changed. At that point I was just praying we didn't wrecked. Gilberto had a decent game, but he had critical mistakes, which lead to the second goal. Song looked way out of place, but OK at the same time. Big gamble by Wenger starting him there, but it didn't result in any goals, but it could have.

The writing is on the wall for Wenger though, another season w/o a trophy. He has a lot of questions to answer, to all the fans, and he better do something about it.


I agree on Jens. I don't think almunia has the ability to stay as cool as Jens did, especially on the one that he just pawed away when rooney was bearing down on goal

there is no writing on the wall for whinger. He'll be gaffer as long as he wants it and honestly, would you as a fan really want him gone with all he's done for the club, if you actually think about it, I'd say that no, you wouldn't want him gone
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04-13-2008 , 08:27 PM
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there is no writing on the wall for whinger. He'll be gaffer as long as he wants it and honestly, would you as a fan really want him gone with all he's done for the club, if you actually think about it, I'd say that no, you wouldn't want him gone
Totally agree. On the performance side, I still think he is the best for the team. As far as everything else, Wenger is an owner's dream: great entertainment for a relatively cheap price tag.
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