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11-02-2013 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
This is NOT A REAL EFFECT. Coaches get hired and fired based on wins and losses, period. No one gets punished for going for 4th downs. The only in-game stuff that might affect job security at all is terrible timeout usage which comes from bad coaches in spades. Besides while broadcasters might suggest playing conservative to start and laud a coach that does, they rarely actually pile on after the fact when a coach does make an aggressive play. Even the Belichick 4th and 2 with the lead in his own territory late was given a pretty balanced approach by the media with ESPN making sure to point out that the math showed his decision to be correct.
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
nfl isn't something that lends itself to significant sample sizes and variance evening out. let's say some first or 2nd year HC in the first 5 games of the season has 3 instances where he's faced with 4th and 1 up 6 or less points at ~the opponent's 39 with no timeouts left for the defense in a spot where a first down wins it. say they decide to go for it all 3 times and fail all 3 times. and say their defense can't hold and they lose the game all 3 times
yes it is possible to craft a hypothetical in which a coach would make the correct decisions and get fired in large part due to that. Thats much different than saying its likely enough to happen that it should impact the coach's decision making process.
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11-02-2013 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
This is NOT A REAL EFFECT. Coaches get hired and fired based on wins and losses, period. No one gets punished for going for 4th downs. The only in-game stuff that might affect job security at all is terrible timeout usage which comes from bad coaches in spades. Besides while broadcasters might suggest playing conservative to start and laud a coach that does, they rarely actually pile on after the fact when a coach does make an aggressive play. Even the Belichick 4th and 2 with the lead in his own territory late was given a pretty balanced approach by the media with ESPN making sure to point out that the math showed his decision to be correct.
At what win-loss record would you fire the current coach of the Eagles?
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11-02-2013 , 03:45 PM
BB was definitely chastised for his 4th and 2 against the Colts.
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11-02-2013 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
This is NOT A REAL EFFECT. Coaches get hired and fired based on wins and losses, period. No one gets punished for going for 4th downs. The only in-game stuff that might affect job security at all is terrible timeout usage which comes from bad coaches in spades. Besides while broadcasters might suggest playing conservative to start and laud a coach that does, they rarely actually pile on after the fact when a coach does make an aggressive play. Even the Belichick 4th and 2 with the lead in his own territory late was given a pretty balanced approach by the media with ESPN making sure to point out that the math showed his decision to be correct.
If Faulk doesn't juggle that pass on 4th and 2, we'd have long ago forgotten about Belichick's decision. I think loss aversion bias plays just as much if not more of a role than the media in coaches playing too conservative.
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11-02-2013 , 04:25 PM
Broncos almost had a break. John Fox had a heart attack. He didn't die though
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11-02-2013 , 04:26 PM
John Fox has been taken to the hospital with a suspected heart attack.
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11-02-2013 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
Broncos almost had a break. John Fox had a heart attack. He didn't die though
Whoa dude
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11-02-2013 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Caldarooni
Whoa dude
Its a joke. And it was just symptoms of one. I'm not rooting for the guy to die.
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11-02-2013 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
Its a joke. And it was just symptoms of one. I'm not rooting for the guy to die.
Of course you're not.

Were that to happen the 49ers title equity would go down. Amirite?
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11-02-2013 , 04:53 PM
unconfirmed rumors that he was reading a sixth grade math textbook
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11-02-2013 , 05:10 PM
Even worse is the distinct possibility that JDR would act as HC.
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11-02-2013 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Even worse is the distinct possibility that JDR would act as HC.
FireDelRio.Jpeg doesn't have quite the some cache now, does it?
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11-02-2013 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
unconfirmed rumors that he was reading a sixth grade math textbook
Rumor debunked. Apparently he was attempting to total his score on the front-nine.

“Denver Broncos Head Coach John Fox was taken to a Charlotte-area hospital after feeling light-headed while playing golf on Saturday,” the team said in a statement.
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11-02-2013 , 05:29 PM
pretty sure his brain almost exploded when someone went for the green in two
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11-02-2013 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
unconfirmed rumors that he was reading a sixth grade math textbook
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11-02-2013 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
pretty sure his brain almost exploded when someone went for the green in two
Can't take those kinds of risks and expect to make par
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11-02-2013 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sven O
Does anyone remember what this was in reaction to? I forget. But it's the best gif ever.
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11-02-2013 , 06:30 PM
so with the jaguars being terrible and blackmon out forever, will they unleash denard? Could make them at least a bit watchable.
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11-02-2013 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Does anyone remember what this was in reaction to? I forget. But it's the best gif ever.
Riverman posting "unconfirmed rumors that he was reading a sixth grade math textbook"
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11-02-2013 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
Riverman posting "unconfirmed rumors that he was reading a sixth grade math textbook"
okay, I asked for that one.
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11-02-2013 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Does anyone remember what this was in reaction to? I forget. But it's the best gif ever.
I think it was the reaction some people had at finding out Marcus was booted on Survivor Gabon.
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11-02-2013 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
to CDL or whoever knows the answer: was mike smith going for it on 4th and short inside his own 30 in OT vs the saints and failing the turning point for his vagina or was it after that?
iirc the turning point was when they got stuffed twice on and 4th and inches in the playoffs that year against the giants
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11-02-2013 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
Riverman posting "unconfirmed rumors that he was reading a sixth grade math textbook"
lol'd
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11-02-2013 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OppositeAttract
I think it was the reaction some people had at finding out Marcus was booted on Survivor Gabon.
yep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg11NpOj8uI
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11-03-2013 , 12:20 AM


Link to article in twitter screen cap

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Originally Posted by ESPN/Adam Schefter
Denver Broncos coach John Fox is expected to have heart valve surgery this week that could sideline him for up to two months, according to a team official.

Fox was hospitalized Saturday after feeling light-headed while playing golf in the Charlotte, N.C., area.

Tests were conducted Saturday and will continue Sunday, according to a source familiar with the situation.
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