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11-08-2011 , 10:38 AM

#326

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Originally Posted by nath

Giants with their +14 PD and their loss at home to Seattle? No way

That was kind of sarcastic, but yes, I have them at #4 right now. That tier from 2-12 is very tight, though. Some good team tends to disappoint every week, making it difficult to seperate them.

Packers 8-0

Ravens 6-2
49ers 7-1
Giants 6-2
Steelers 6-3
Patriots 5-3
Saints 6-3
Texans 6-3
Lions 6-2
Bears 5-3
Falcons 5-3
Jets 5-3

Bengals 6-2
Eagles 3-5
Chargers 4-4
Bills 5-3
Cowboys 4-4
Bucs 4-4

Titans 4-4
Chiefs 4-4
Vikings 2-6
Raiders 4-4
Panthers 2-6
Dolphins 1-7
Browns 3-5
Redskins 3-5
Broncos 3-5
Jaguars 2-6
Seahawks 2-6
Rams 1-7
Cardinals 2-6

Colts 0-9

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11-08-2011 , 10:48 AM

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Saints have a sick +81 pd especially considering +55 came from the lolcolts

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11-08-2011 , 11:21 AM

#328

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Originally Posted by rmthawk64

So good at sack avoidance that he actually made Ryan Clady look elite that one time.

Yea, just like he's making whoever the **** the Bears' LT is look elite now.

Oh wait.

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11-08-2011 , 03:02 PM

#329

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Originally Posted by Steroid Boy

Saints have a sick +81 pd especially considering +55 came from the lolcolts

Everyone who has a high PD has at least one ridiculous blowout win on their schedule

Giants lost to Washington and Seattle, and only beat Miami by 3 and Arizona by 4

The NE win is encouraging but those other results do not bode well for the second half of the season, when the schedule gets much tougher

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11-08-2011 , 03:04 PM

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Haynesworth cut.

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11-08-2011 , 03:08 PM

#331

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Rodgers having the greatest season of all time

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11-08-2011 , 03:08 PM

#332

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-haynesworth/

Haynesworth cut.

BRING BACK TULLY BANTA-CAIN

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11-08-2011 , 03:11 PM

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Ryan Clady is good, don't get me wrong. But the whole ZOMG HE DIDN'T GIVE UP A SACK ALL YEAR GOAT **** was Cutler. From what I recall, Clady gave up plenty of pressures, just ran hotter than the ****ing sun to have not given up a sack.

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11-08-2011 , 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Debo9

it's hard to coach when you have jerry jones as an owner. he will 100% make garrett give jones carries b/c of arkansas connection

wat

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Originally Posted by Suh-Nami

Better by what definition?

QB play - not really close, DET.

RB play - CHI (ldfo) probly gets a lot closer if LeShoure was healthy

WR play - not close, DET

OL - about even, better rushing for CHI, better pass pro for DET (imo)

TE - DET

DL - DET, kind of close but Avril + VB + Suh >>>>> Peppers and whoever else

LB - about even, probly give the nod to CHI just cuz Urlacher is 133t

CB - DET

S - DET

???? How are the Bears better?

This method is so flawed its almost worthless + its 4-3 in favor of CHI when done correctly(WR+TE together and secondary together to CHI).

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Based on his team is underperforming... again. He's the longest tenure coach. No rings. It's a "thanks for your time now gtfo" move ala Fisher. You would be far and away the most attractive job. Pick of the litter is a nice spot to be in. How much.better would they be with Jim Schwartz for instance? I think a lot.

Reid isn't bad, don't get me wrong. My reasoning is very weak, for sure. They aren't stuck with John Fox or Norv Turner. It's like Marvin Lewis, both Reid and Lewis are good coaches. The Bengals couldn't possibly upgrade - if Reid were coaching Cincy they would be foolish to fire him like ever.

lol Jim Schwartz.

Reids W/L since 2000:

11-5
11-5
12-4
12-4
13-3
6-10
10-6
8-8
9-6-1
11-5
10-6
3-5

Do you realize how absurd that consistency is? That 6-10 includes half a season of Mike McMahon. The only coaches in the current pool with better qualifications are Belichick and Cowher.

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11-08-2011 , 03:20 PM

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Now that Fat Albert is gone, how much longer before Ochocinco is out?

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lions run d is susceptible

Yeah but from what I've seen it's mostly because they are overaggro and that gets abused. Fixable with some dedicated coaching imo

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11-08-2011 , 03:58 PM

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Now that Fat Albert is gone, how much longer before Ochocinco is out?

Is Shanny somewhat vindicated in running Albert out of Washington now? I mean, I thought shanny was an idiot for not correctly utilizing him, but if he really is just a lazy ****ing worthless bastard i guess he made the right decision

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11-08-2011 , 03:58 PM

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Rodgers having the greatest season of all time

The QB rushing dyar seems weird. Tebow's 12 for 118 is just 16 yards above replacement? am I misunderstanding the stat?

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11-08-2011 , 04:03 PM

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I'm confused too. I know it has to do with stuff like success rate and consistency, but then they say he had 5 10-yard+ runs and 4 for first downs, so it seems like it should be higher.

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11-08-2011 , 04:03 PM

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Haynesworth cut.

50/50 Jets bring him in just so they can learn everything for Sunday's game.

Also lol at Bart Scott, talking about Jets/Giants rivalry (or lack thereof):

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"...when I was in Baltimore I could remember with the Redskins you had guys fighting over strippers and all kind of stuff. I don’t sense that here. I think it is a mutual respect. I think the town is big enough for both of us."

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11-08-2011 , 04:06 PM

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Under most circumstances I'd say lol @ firing Reid. But damn he took a big gamble by making an offensive line coach his DC. That's entirely on him and seemed a completely unnecessary risk.

It's a good move in the long run imo, lol at Reid being fired. He'll have a legit SB contender next year depending on Vick's health.

His ingame stuff is tilting me to no end but he seems ultra-elite in all other areas and those are extremly important.

I'll join the coaching speculation:
Gruden to MIA

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11-08-2011 , 04:22 PM

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you wouldn't be faced with huge expectations if Reid gets canned.

if reid gets canned it will prob be for failing to get rangz, so idk how expectations wouldn't be high

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11-08-2011 , 04:32 PM

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The first year if the new HC failed to get a rang it'd probably be *shrug* 'ok' from the FO. After that, I'm sure there'd be more and more pressure from there on out. Which is obv the standard for all HC'ing positions.

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11-08-2011 , 04:41 PM

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John Clayton saying Fat Al may end up in Detroit. Is he better than Corey Williams and do you want to take PT away from Fairley? Not gonna happen IMO. Please bump this when he signs with the lions ldo

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11-08-2011 , 05:07 PM

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That line will lead the lead in unnecessary roughness calls imo.

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11-08-2011 , 05:08 PM

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I mean historically elite as in 2000 Ravens, 85 Bears, type thing. 49ers are fairly elite in the year to year sense. I don't think they can get away with success running the ball and having Smith make 20 throws a game throughout the playoffs - bye helps here I reckon. Maybe I'm wrong. This team is very similar to last year personnel wise, can Singletary be that inept?

I think people make too many blanket statements like this. "Pats will never win with a D like that", "Ravens can't win unless Flacco steps up", etc. The playoffs are 3 or 4 games, and imo theres no magical formula to winning. You just go out and play the games, and if they experience positive variance then a team like SF could definitely win 3 in a row to win the SB.

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to the people that have the bengals in the WC spot, and people asking for respect for them.. They have 1 win over a winning team(bills which might end up not making the playoffs), and 1 loss to a losing team.. They've done nothing to earn respect yet and they have 4 more games that in the division that they will be decent underdogs in. plus SF which they will be a dog in.. im sorry it's still LOLcinci..

They are also pretty close to being 8-0.

Week 2 at Denver: Down 2 points, 1st and 10 on Denver 48, 1:03 to go

Week 3 vs SF: Up 6-3(huge defensive struggle ldo) with 4:00 left to go

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11-08-2011 , 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher

I think the mentality is that teams can win a lot of regular season games when they have a huge positive that is enough to carry some major weaknesses. In the playoffs you're only playing other elite teams so those major weaknesses become worse and your huge positives need to be better which is harder. That's why most of the superbowl teams are well rounded and near the top in offense and defense that year.

Obviously there are aberrations (rams/ravens) but for the most part being balanced is a requirement.

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11-08-2011 , 06:14 PM

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Albert should go back to TN. Any other option would probably fail.

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11-08-2011 , 06:19 PM

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Detroit sounds like a great spot for Al. When you got a young hungry guy like Suh over there the first thing you want is to place a 340 pound cancerous tumor next to him.

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11-08-2011 , 06:23 PM

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Detroit sounds like a great spot for Al. When you got a young hungry guy like Suh over there the first thing you want is to place a 340 pound cancerous tumor next to him.

This. I'm pretty sure Al would be the 4th DT so it makes no sense. Whenever Al's name comes up people got assume Detroit because of Schwartz, even though the signing would literally make no sense

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