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03-06-2009 , 12:34 AM

#901

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Carson Palmer is 29.

and coming off major surgery on his throwing arm. 2 years ago palmers value was prob close to cutlers now, but we all know how injuries cause alot of downgraded values

palmer may indeed return to stardom, but till he puts up a good full season there is reason to have doubts

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03-06-2009 , 12:38 AM

#902

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Originally Posted by nath

it's when people say things like Cutler < Big Ben, Eli, Matt Ryan that i have to call them out. (Not to mention calling out the people who say we're overrating Cutler and provide no counter-argument as to why a young franchise QB who is unequivocally one of the ten best signal-callers in the league-- and probably better, and he's 25!-- should not cost a king's ransom in a trade.)

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03-06-2009 , 12:48 AM

#903

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Cutler is also 25 right now, which was Palmer's age his rookie season.

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03-06-2009 , 01:26 AM

#904

tolbiny

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Originally Posted by capone0

There is a price for everyone in the NFL. NBA is another story. I can't imagine what it would take to pry Lebron right now or 2 years ago from the Cavs or MJ in his prime.

You can't trade for Lebron since the town would immediately turn against your team. You would already have to have a city to move the team to lined up.

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At this point I'm agreeing with Bill Simmons who made the point that people should be trying to sign UFA Lance Moore a lot more than they seem to be. Compensation is a 2nd rounder and frankly if your second round pick turned out to be a Lance Moore capable receiver, you'd be happy.

2nd round picks get paid one half (or less) of what Lance Moore will (would) get if you signed him. The Saints have a right to match- so if you get Moore to agree to a really good deal for you then the Saints match and you wasted your time. Where's the upside? Best case scenario is you get Moore, but not at a great price and give up a 2nd rounder.

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03-06-2009 , 01:30 AM

#905

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

The other day I played in a home game where two guys who play like 85/5 got in a big argument about whether Gus Hansen or Mike Matusow was a better player. For some reason it reminded me of this thread.

How much equity did you give up when you chopped with them?

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03-06-2009 , 02:51 AM

#906

nath

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Originally Posted by tolbiny

Hey, we currently don't have Moore OR a 2nd-rounder! Win-win!

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03-06-2009 , 03:31 AM

#907

dkgojackets

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Originally Posted by tolbiny

You can't trade for Lebron since the town would immediately turn against your team. You would already have to have a city to move the team to lined up.

i have no idea what you are trying to say

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03-06-2009 , 04:02 AM

#908

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Trading a 1 and 3 for Roy Williams, cutting TO, and signing some old guys on their last leg. Nice Jerry.

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03-06-2009 , 04:10 AM

#909

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he's saying the backlash to trading lebron would be so great that you better be planning to gtfo of dodge

i'm not convinced the cowboys are better off w/o owens, but i guess we'll see. i think team chemistry is overrated though

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03-06-2009 , 04:11 AM

#910

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Same wouldn't be true about trading Peyton 5 years ago though?

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03-06-2009 , 04:16 AM

#911

tarheeljks

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i was just saying what i thought he meant, but i actually misread what he said. he said you can't trade for lebron so idk what he meant either

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03-06-2009 , 04:19 AM

#912

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Yeah I know, I was referring to his point as well.

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03-06-2009 , 04:21 AM

#913

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Originally Posted by SMIGLET

palmer did not have surgery on his arm.

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03-06-2009 , 05:23 AM

#914

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Originally Posted by TheNoodleMan

How much equity did you give up when you chopped with them?

I gave them the warped red chip that doesn't stack well.

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03-06-2009 , 09:03 AM

#915

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Roy Williams (S) released by the Cowboys. I guess this is a really good thing for them...........bout time.

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03-06-2009 , 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nath

were you guys planning to support this statement or is it just a point of incontrovertible fact

Sorry, I don't have a secret website of fancy adjusted metrics. It's just a joke that he's apparently now in a totally different tier than a Romo based on one .500 season in an awful division, bad defense notwithstanding. I don't get it.

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03-06-2009 , 11:43 AM

#917

Tyler Durden

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Originally Posted by MacGuyV

Very well said.

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03-06-2009 , 12:45 PM

#918

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Originally Posted by MacGuyV

You obviously don't get it if that is what you think our reasoning is. lolromo

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03-06-2009 , 12:53 PM

#919

MDoranD

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3955762

CB Shawn Springs signs with the Pats...Pats also trade for WR Greg Lewis from PHI for an undisclosed draft pick this year

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03-06-2009 , 12:55 PM

#920

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Patriots give up a 5th and receive a 7th in the GL deal.

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03-06-2009 , 12:56 PM

#921

MDoranD

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what do they see in Lewis? I dont know much about him

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03-06-2009 , 12:57 PM

#922

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Originally Posted by MDoranD

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3955762

CB Shawn Springs signs with the Pats...Pats also trade for WR Greg Lewis from PHI for an undisclosed draft pick this year

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