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02-06-2019 , 03:09 PM

#7251

DodgerIrish

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He also made the move for Ray (for the 5th pick) which made KG willing to go. Drafted Rondo with like the 22nd pick or watev too.

Then blew it up on the fly and is building a near champ level team in Boston in the era of FA and player empowerment. Also hired BRAD.

Ainge is a great gm.

eta: fleeced Philly in the Fultz deal.

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02-06-2019 , 03:19 PM

#7252

DodgerIrish

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Got IT2 for free as value (when Suns had a fire sale), and flipped him (when injured!) and the return on Rondo (Crowder) for Kyrie.

His contract to Crowder was also the best bargain value in the league for a season or two (which added to his value as an asset).

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02-06-2019 , 03:22 PM

#7253

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So show of internet hands, who thinks AD is a Laker in 30 hours?

I do.

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02-06-2019 , 03:23 PM

#7254

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NO isn't going to hold out for a high pick (after positions are settled)?

Seems like the only alternative. He's not ending up in Boston.

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02-06-2019 , 03:27 PM

#7255

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So show of internet hands, who thinks AD is a Laker in 30 hours?

I do.

If they haven't made the deal already then no deal will be made. Lakers offered the farm and they will like idiots settle for a poo poo splatter Celtics or Clippers offer in the off season just to stick it to Rich Paul & Lebron. Pride will bite them in the ass in the end.

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02-06-2019 , 03:27 PM

#7256

Effen

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Originally Posted by vinivici9586

f'oh

Ainge got gifted KG from an ex-teammate. lets see how he does this time around, where people think he's an *******.

Bingo.

Ainge was on his way to being fired after turfing out Jim O'Brien, trading Antoine Walker (still useful) for the corpse of Raef Lafretz and his billion dollar wasted contract, and sucking so bad Pierce demanded out.

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02-06-2019 , 03:38 PM

#7257

patron

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Originally Posted by Seadood228

So show of internet hands, who thinks AD is a Laker in 30 hours?

I do.

Doubt it. Hope you're right though.

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02-06-2019 , 03:42 PM

#7258

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Originally Posted by Exothermic

the lakers offer is the poo poo platter tho. do they have any individual asset that is overwhelmingly considered to be high quality?

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02-06-2019 , 03:48 PM

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the lakers offer is the poo poo platter tho. do they have any individual asset that is overwhelmingly considered to be high quality?

Lonzo is solid, Kuzma is solid, Hart & Zubac are good rotation pieces, Ingram has potential to be an allstar + multiple first round picks. How much better is Tatum than Ingram seriously?

p.s Tatum isn't a sure thing to be included & if he isn't then the Boston deal will be trash.

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02-06-2019 , 03:50 PM

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solid is not high quality. obv the lakers' offer has value, but it offers less chance of nabbing a great player than going after one of these lotto picks from another team

edit: the firsts the lakers' offered are all their own right? again not extremely high quality assets

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02-06-2019 , 03:51 PM

#7261

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

West shouldn't get credit for GS too much. Steph was already there.

Klay and Dray though. Arguably neither are there without West, and GSW has zero rings.

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02-06-2019 , 03:52 PM

#7262

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this tobias harris trade has a chance to make/keep the east weak for the next 5 years:

- philly loses assets, and might lock into something good but not good enough (im not bullish on the harris fit)
- philly will obv be better short term, which increase chances of the craptors doing craptorish things in the playoffs, which would guarantee kawhi leaving
- clippers look more attractive to a bunch of FAs, particularly kawhi and kyrie
- celtikkks have the clippers pick this year if it is not in the lottery, but they're all but guaranteed to tank now
- celtikkks have the kings pick either way, and they'll probably pass the clippers in the standings

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02-06-2019 , 03:52 PM

#7263

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Originally Posted by tarheeljks

solid is not high quality

Outside of Tatum what can the Celtics or the Clippers offer than is high quality?

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02-06-2019 , 03:54 PM

#7264

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Originally Posted by Exothermic

Tatum isn't a sure thing to be included & if he isn't then the Boston deal will be trash.

Tatum isn't being included, and the Boston deal will be trash. It is known.

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Originally Posted by tarheeljks

the lakers offer is the poo poo platter tho. do they have any individual asset that is overwhelmingly considered to be high quality?

Heels, what is the best offer out there from any team for AD right now, and what do you think the best offer will be this summer?

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02-06-2019 , 03:54 PM

#7265

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Originally Posted by tarheeljks

solid is not high quality. obv the lakers' offer has value, but it offers less chance of nabbing a great player than going after one of these lotto picks from another team

edit: the firsts the lakers' offered are all their own right? again not extremely high quality assets

The second best player from the 2019 draft(Rj Barrett) will be in the D league in 3-4 years, this draft class among the worst i've ever seen. Literally Zion is the only good player, Bol Bol has potential but far from a sure thing & everyone else is rotational pieces at best. Kuzma & Ball>> RJ, Cam & the rest of the trash in the draft.

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02-06-2019 , 03:55 PM

#7266

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BOLD PREDICTION- AD to Boston, Kawhi to Pels, Tatum to Raps

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02-06-2019 , 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dlk9s

They've done a pretty ****ing good job so far.

I wasn't disputing that, just noting the Stanley did a great job earlier in the year on Kawhi. He's been pretty useless besides that.

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02-06-2019 , 04:05 PM

#7268

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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy

BOLD PREDICTION- AD to Boston, Kawhi to Pels, Tatum to Raps

This makes 0 sense.

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02-06-2019 , 04:05 PM

#7269

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Originally Posted by Exothermic

RJ Barrett will be a future MVP

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02-06-2019 , 04:06 PM

#7270

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

Memphis isn't really that worthy of mention tbh.

He took a trash expansion team that had never won more than 23 wins, and almost instantly turned them into a 50 win playoff team in the West, winning Executive of the Year in the process.

It's not titles, but it's definitely a plus on his resume.

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02-06-2019 , 04:14 PM

#7271

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I mean, that wiki is pretty crazy. Let's talk about before he even got to the Celtics

Dude was Hinkie before Hinkie.

"Boston Celtics (1950–2006)[edit]
The early years (1950–56)[edit]
Prior to the 1950–51 NBA season, Walter Brown, owner of the Boston Celtics, was desperate to turn around his struggling and financially strapped franchise, which was reeling from a 22–46 record.[6] Brown, in characteristic candor, said to a gathering of local Boston sportswriters, "Boys, I don't know anything about basketball. Who would you recommend I hire as coach?" The group vociferously answered that he get the recently available Auerbach, and Brown complied. In the 1950 NBA draft, Auerbach made some notable moves. First, he famously snubbed Hall-of-Fame New England point guard Bob Cousy in the 1950 NBA draft, infuriating the Boston crowd. He argued that the flashy Cousy lacked the poise necessary to make his team, taunting him as a "local yokel".[2] Second, he drafted African-American Chuck Cooper, the first black player to be drafted by an NBA club.[10] With that, Auerbach effectively broke down the color barrier in professional basketball.[3]"

This seems notable and isn't as well-known as it should be.

Cousy played his whole career for Boston did he not?
Also, Cousy had a way more successful career than Chuck Cooper

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02-06-2019 , 04:19 PM

#7272

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Outside of Tatum what can the Celtics or the Clippers offer than is high quality?

They could offer Kyrie (S&T), Brown (who for some reason is seen as valuable), Rozier, Gordon (who probably isn't worth much now) or some of these picks:

Grizzlies top 8 and 2020 Top 6 protected pick or 2021 unprotected
Sacto pick has some value but less than in previous years

It's nothing amazing; but I'm not the biggest Tatum fan either. The Celtics definitely have some assets but some are pretty costly (Kyrie and Gordon) and don't fit the rebuild mold.

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02-06-2019 , 04:20 PM

#7273

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I wasn't disputing that, just noting the Stanley did a great job earlier in the year on Kawhi. He's been pretty useless besides that.

True. He actually did a good job on Giannis, too, as far as someone can do anything against him. I would assume Bucks got him for defense and some rebounding. Hell, if he can catch a ball, that's an upgrade over Thon.

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02-06-2019 , 04:22 PM

#7274

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4

Cousy played his whole career for Boston did he not?
Also, Cousy had a way more successful career than Chuck Cooper

wiki: Cousy was initially drafted by the Tri-Cities Blackhawks as the third overall pick in the first round of the 1950 NBA draft, but after he refused to report, he was picked up by Boston.

And ldo, but being willing to break the color barrier is kind of a big deal and speaks to his prowess of the time.

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02-06-2019 , 04:29 PM

#7275

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Ainge's best skill as a GM seems to be in PR. Dude is constantly lowballing people in trade offers without ever getting to the "**** you I'll trade with anyone else" stage people seem to be in with the Lakers. This lets him get huge returns when people take lopsided deals, and there is enough turnover in GMs that there are new "he'll play fair with me despite jobbing everyone else" suckers to exploit every year.

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