+1 to the album draft. I was thinking about that a couple days ago.

Okay, I guess we just disagree then. I think the gap between Spector (unquestionable #1 producer) and pretty much everyone from like #4 on is huge. He was streets ahead of everyone.

And this warrants him being picked so early in this draft how? There will be no no-name artists.

Well I shouldn't say that given how lol some of the picks have been thus far.

Movie production is not really analogous with music production. Generally the chief creators of movies are not the actors. Its the guy who wrote the screen play, the producer, the director, the costume people, etc. Then an actor/actress is tasked to carry out their vision/plan.

Music is different in most cases. The artists involved normally write their own material, they create the melodies, they play the instruments, etc. A producer can be valuable here, I agree, but when you have musicians who can also produce, then a pure producer is less necessary. This draft is full of people like that.

If you want a label filled with pure singers, Spector seems awesome. But why would you want that? Why not pick musicians who can create their own material first, then find producers later who can help them?

I've been saying throughout this draft that if people really want specific people, ****ing take them regardless of the hate. If thats the case here, then fine. If it wasn't, then this strikes me as a pick that someone is making because they are over thinking things.

Okay fine, but this draft is filled with NAME artists, who can create on their own and have done so with success. With how deep the draft is, it seems like the value of pure producers are reduced quite a bit.

eh, in kidcolin's defense, imagine what could happen if he had awesome talent.

It's kind of like the when people complain about XXX not being that great because he got to play with AAA, BBB, and CCC but XXX drafter says that he'll be playing with great players anyways.

Or not, I'm grunching this entire thing except TuT and TSC's post. I don't even know what we're talking about.

k, definitely won't be around long enough to make my own pick. Who wants it as backup incase Nath isn't here?

I don't know, guys like Spector produced records for first rounders in this draft, and I think some highly regarded undrafteds might not have their work be considered as classic if not for the production.

There's been a lot of argument about draft picks who were a member of a songwriting team, and their potential lesser value because you're taking them apart. I think the same can be said for production, and the reduced value of some of these greats when they don't have their legendary producers in the room during recording.

Anyone?

Geddy, PM me your pick.

Just so y'all are clear, as we go further in this draft my write-ups are going to be more and more ridiculous and have less and less content.

jeez.....not a fan of this pick at all even though I like some of their songs.

well i guess we'll have to hold on to what we've got

The signing of JBJ might accelerate Brian Wilson's descent into madness

JBJ + Freddi Mercury = Brian Wilson going postal and shooting up the studio.

Mercury will probably have a perma boner when ever JBJ shows up. Might get in the way of things....

I have Geddy's pick.

Yeah, I can't say Bon Jovi is worthy of the 4th round. He certainly has some significant value somewhere here, but this is too early for a guy like that. Plenty of much bigger and more talented names on the board.

I also can't really see a connection between Wilson, Nina Simone, Freddie Mercury, and Bon Jovi. Just kind of a bizarre jumble of talents.

I love how quickly Eno followed Spector. Also, not the producer I'd have picked there.

wait i'm up?

Unless the SS is wrong, yes.

Damn ok I just woke up and wanted to read thread first but I guess I can pick. Might take me some time to do a non crappy writeup but I'll just post song + picture/name and full writeup later I suppose

This is basically what I get for going off of memory and drafting from my phone. Didn't want to hold things up and I could have sworn Jagger had already gone. If I had access to the spreadsheet I would have taken him.

That said...Tyler is still a pretty awesome asset. Wrote some awesome songs like Dream On (and many others), instantly recognizable figure and voice, frontman of the most successful band in American history. Can do the rap/rock thing. Eminem sampled him so they obv love each other. He's good stuff.

This is going to require an explanation

Here is a list of major songs Tyler wrote:

Amazing
Angel
Crazy
Dream On
Dude (Looks like a lady)
Jaded
Just Push Play
Last Child
Livin' on the Edge
Pink
Rag Doll
Same Old Song and Dance
Sweet Emotion
Walk This Way


There are some real classics in there.

It might be a decent pick, but man I hate the **** out of Bon Jovi. Like borderline pathological hatred.