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05-08-2023 , 09:00 PM

#19726

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yeah if Colby beats Leon, he will try to turn over every rock to fight anyone but belal

usman 3, champ vs champ vs islam, conor if he beats chandler (cant see connor doing that but still)

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05-09-2023 , 07:03 PM

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Pretty sure they put Connor vs. Chandler at 170 so they can give Connor a title shot with a win if he wants to have one. I highly doubt he's interested in another shot at the 155 title.

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yeah if Colby beats Leon, he will try to turn over every rock to fight anyone but belal

There would be only one way for Colby to sell that fight to a larger audience and I highly doubt the UFC is willing to go there.

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05-13-2023 , 05:35 PM

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almeida looked good

do him vs pavlovich while HW is in limbo

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05-17-2023 , 04:02 PM

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The BMF is back? Wow that is huge news

Do people even know who Gaethje/Poirier are enough for the coveted belt to be on the line?

How did Salt lake get 2 cards within a year? Everyone was gassed with the altitude last time, it was horrible

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05-17-2023 , 05:30 PM

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Do people even know who Gaethje/Poirier are enough for the coveted belt to be on the line?

Poirier was half of two of the four highest selling PPV of all time so the name recognition should be there. BMF is obviously plain stupid but those big name 155ers don't have much interest in fighting for the real belt anyway.

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05-17-2023 , 05:44 PM

#19731

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And casuals know Conor, and then they knew Khabib as a result, and those were his last two fights.

Poirier will have higher name value to the casuals.

Feels like the proto-BMF was Rampage vs Rashad. It's the highest selling PPV that's apropos of nothing pre-Conor. (Was a 3 round grudge match ME coming off TUF.)

Rampage Rashad
Diaz Masvidal
Poirier Gaethje

See the commonality? It's the commonality.

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05-17-2023 , 05:54 PM

#19732

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It was for a belt, but Anderson Vitor had some of those same vibes. (Anderson's highest selling PPV that wasn't a rematch [Weidman, Chael].)

It being a couple white guys probably neuters most of that spirit the others have tapped into with their own demographical fanbase tho.

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05-17-2023 , 06:00 PM

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Those announced cards kind of suck.

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05-17-2023 , 07:51 PM

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Those announced cards kind of suck.

UFC 290 has Alexander Volkanovski vs. Yair Rodríguez; Brandon Moreno vs. Alexandre Pantoja; Robert Whittaker vs. Dricus du Plessis; Jalin Turner vs. Dan Hooker; Sean Brady vs. Jack Della Maddalena plus Bo Nickal and Robbie Lawler's final fight.

UFC 291 has Dustin Poirier vs. Justin Gaethje; Jan Blachowicz vs. Alex Pereira; Paulo Costa vs. Ikram Aliskerov; Tony Ferguson vs. Bobby Green; Michael Chiesa vs. Kevin Holland and Stephen Thompson vs. Michel Pereira.

I would argue those are the two most entertaining cards of the year on paper.

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05-17-2023 , 09:02 PM

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290 is awesome, it was my mistake to include that. I'll be buying that and I agree it's one of the better cards in a long time.

291 is just awful to me. I like the main and co main, but nothing else excites me.

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05-17-2023 , 11:15 PM

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anyone on SLC 2 shows in less than a year? is that easy logistically for the UFC or something?

the first show guys were gassing fast

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05-17-2023 , 11:21 PM

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UFC President Dana White has not publicly stated why the UFC is returning to Salt Lake City so soon. However, there are a few possible reasons.

First, Salt Lake City has a large and passionate fan base for the UFC. The UFC's last event in Salt Lake City, UFC Fight Night: Błachowicz vs. Rakic, drew a crowd of over 19,000 fans. This was the largest crowd for a UFC event in Salt Lake City since 2016.

Second, Salt Lake City is a relatively inexpensive city to host an event. The cost of renting the Vivint Arena, where the UFC will be holding its event, is significantly lower than the cost of renting other major arenas in the United States.

Third, Salt Lake City is a convenient location for many UFC fighters. The city is located in the Rocky Mountains, which is a popular training destination for many fighters. Additionally, Salt Lake City is a relatively short flight from many major cities in the United States.

Overall, there are a number of reasons why the UFC may be returning to Salt Lake City so soon. The city has a large and passionate fan base, it is an inexpensive city to host an event, and it is a convenient location for many UFC fighters.

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05-17-2023 , 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler

291 is just awful to me. I like the main and co main, but nothing else excites me.

That's fair even though I would argue that getting a good main and co-main event is already more than a lot of PPV provide these days.

I'm pretty excited about Costa vs. Aliskerov and Ferguson fights are at least somewhat entertaining most of the time. Not sure about Wonderboy vs. Michel Pereira but the latter was in an absolute barnburner in his last fight with Ponzinibbio.

Compared to UFC 289 in 3 weeks which looks like a mediocre fight night if Oliveira vs. Dariush gets canceled again..

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05-20-2023 , 07:55 PM

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I just don't ever want Gaethje headlining a card anyways. I like watching him fight, but he's better as an undercard.

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05-20-2023 , 07:56 PM

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Two massive KOs back to back on tonight's main card. Poor Michael Johnson went stiff.

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05-20-2023 , 10:09 PM

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I just don't ever want Gaethje headlining a card anyways. I like watching him fight, but he's better as an undercard.

Before the last two headliners against grapplers he had a string of 5 main events with a performance bonus. Starting with the first Poirier fight.

Unless he wants a third crack at a title I doubt he'll ever fight a grappler again in the UFC.

To my surprise I felt pretty entertained throughout the Dern - Hill fight tonight. Not sure what's more impressive, Dern's performance or the fact that she was able to make weight after bulking up considerably. I just checked YouTube for confirmation, she certainly looked way bigger today than in her fight with Amanda Cooper for which she missed weight by 7 pounds.

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05-20-2023 , 10:24 PM

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Yeah Dern really dominated that fight. Was very entertaining. Hill was tough as hell making it to a decision, looked like she was done like 5-6 different times.

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05-21-2023 , 06:55 PM

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UFC judging is becoming worse than boxing.

I wonder if Dave Moretti read that post before scoring round 10 for Haney vs. Lomo last night..

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05-22-2023 , 04:33 PM

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I wonder if Dave Moretti read that post before scoring round 10 for Haney vs. Lomo last night..

how does Loma say he thought he won so he didnt go as hard in 12?

almost every press scorecard had it close, some of these trainers are just braindead in those spots they have to be honest with their fighters

haney corner told him he was winning too, then he got smoked in the 10-11th

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05-22-2023 , 06:03 PM

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how does Loma say he thought he won so he didnt go as hard in 12?

I haven't checked but would assume most scorecards had it 7-4 or 6-5 Lomo going into the 12th? That was one was a clear Haney round to me.

No idea what Lomo really thought in the last round. Since he's 35 and spend a ton of energy in rounds 10 and 11, my best guess is that he ran out of steam. He's done it long enough to know how difficult it is to win a decision against a champion on foreign soil.

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05-23-2023 , 10:34 AM

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Yeah Dern really dominated that fight. Was very entertaining. Hill was tough as hell making it to a decision, looked like she was done like 5-6 different times.

Dern was scary af. Great main card.

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05-23-2023 , 12:12 PM

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Dern was scary af.

Dern on Saturday after weighing in 1 pound under the 116lbs limit:

Dern 5 years ago weighing in 7 pounds over the 116lbs limit:

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06-10-2023 , 11:41 PM

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Would like to see Dariush win this, think he matches up reasonably well with Islam

sure the UFC would like it as well otherwise not many contenders at 155

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06-11-2023 , 12:46 AM

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damn du bronx, they may just have to give him another title shot

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06-11-2023 , 01:23 AM

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damn du bronx, they may just have to give him another title shot

They promised one to the winner of this fight.

Doesn't necessarily have to be the next one though. Depends on if the winner of Poirier vs. Gaethje wants one. I kinda doubt it, especially not Poirier.

Womens 145 is obviously gone now but if it was up to me they would shut down 135 as well. Do we really have to see Pennington fight for a title vs. Holm or Pena? Whoever wins the belt might be a huge underdog vs Valentina if she decides she wants to have another crack at it.