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03-05-2017 , 02:34 AM

#12551

Wires

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Jesus. That Elkins fight was crazy town.

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03-05-2017 , 02:34 AM

#12552

DodgerIrish

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The fact that there was a near finish from strikes without mitigating back and forth moments makes it a 10-8 in my book.

Wonderboy did nothing of note otherwise in the round.

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03-05-2017 , 02:35 AM

#12553

Wires

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Originally Posted by Prawney

That final round was never 10-8. Sure wit the new rules where they have more 10-8's you can make an arguement for it but this was under the old rules and that being a 10-8 is laugh out loud funny.

I feel for wonderboy, He has fought two 5 round fights vs Woodley and won 3 rounds in each fight and has nothing to show for it.

New rules aren't taking effect in Vegas until July or August per Rogan.

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03-05-2017 , 02:35 AM

#12554

Herbavorus_Rex

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What's bizarre is that the judges in favor of Woodley didn't even score it 10-8, or call any round 10-10. They just gifted round 2 to Woodley.

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03-05-2017 , 02:36 AM

#12555

DodgerIrish

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

I wonder how much of that 10-8 is subconscious?

Knowing that the 3 rds WB won didn't do as much damage as that rd combined may have influenced giving a 10-8.

I have an open hypothesis about guys who clearly lost the first round being gifted the second in a close round.

Only natural/human to want the third round to mean something!

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I don't think it is that bad of a 10-8 either, he rocked him pretty bad and almost finished the fight.

Especially in slo-mo replay, looked like Wonderboy might've been out and got waken up with a subsequent shot.

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The bizarre thing is the 10-8 didn't even matter. Just winning the rd got him the majority decision.

Agreed, should've been either Wonderboy or draw imo.

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03-05-2017 , 02:36 AM

#12556

Prawney

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Dont want to get stuck up on the 10-8 because 2 judges scored 3 rounds for Woodley and thats why he won.

I just think the judging was crazy in that fight,

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03-05-2017 , 02:40 AM

#12557

Onlydo2days

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Agree it was a bad decision to give Woodley the W, but the right decision still has him keeping the belt and they aren't fighting again for awhile anyway.

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03-05-2017 , 02:42 AM

#12558

Prawney

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My take on it is that it wasnt some prolonged attacked in the final round. Wonderboy wasnt saved by the bell or anything. It was a fairly even final round that i would give to Woodley then a 30 sec spurt where he looked like he had a chance to finish. I mean if that is a 10-8 round then you can make an arguement for every round being 10-8.

Again i have no idea why im getting soo annoyed bout the scoring for a round that didnt even matter but i just cant help myself.

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03-05-2017 , 02:46 AM

#12559

Onlydo2days

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I dunno, you hurt a guy that bad and you definitely got an argument for a 10-8 imo. The fight was almost finished.

WB put himself in that spot, fought passively the whole fight and allowed himself to get tagged with 30 seconds left. It was a falconsesque choke.

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03-05-2017 , 02:49 AM

#12560

rubbrband

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

I would argue Woodley is the one who fought passively.

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03-05-2017 , 02:51 AM

#12561

Onlydo2days

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Absolutely, they both did.

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03-05-2017 , 02:51 AM

#12562

DodgerIrish

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6 of one, half dozen of the other.

Last edited by DodgerIrish; 03-05-2017 at 02:52 AM. Reason: ponied but I prefer my phrasing

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03-05-2017 , 02:56 AM

#12563

Onlydo2days

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I dunno who decided to do these pressers individually rather than everyone together, but it is lame.

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03-05-2017 , 03:03 AM

#12564

DodgerIrish

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They've done it either right away, or shortly after, IMG took over.

It's been AIDS. Some of my favorite moments have been stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoJyvMic8uY

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03-05-2017 , 03:06 AM

#12565

Onlydo2days

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I remember after Nick lost to GSP he was talking about how he might go to jail because he hasn't paid taxes and Dana is just standing there like WTF?

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03-05-2017 , 03:22 AM

#12566

Onlydo2days

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Bob Bennett the NSAC head was at the presser and said the 10-8 was unacceptable and they went over it in the debriefing they do. Said didn't affect outcome regardless.

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03-05-2017 , 07:28 AM

#12567

rainbowsinthesky

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wow. "the best WW in history" what a joke

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03-05-2017 , 02:47 PM

#12568

SuperSwag

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I didn't understand why Hunt fought before the women lol. Should have been second to last.

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03-05-2017 , 04:35 PM

#12569

SuperUberBob

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How does anybody give Woodley 3 rounds? Insanity.

No way there's a third fight either. That **** was boring. Other fights really good.

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03-05-2017 , 05:17 PM

#12570

DodgerIrish

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Originally Posted by SuperSwag

I didn't understand why Hunt fought before the women lol. Should have been second to last.

Hunt and/or (especially) Reem prbly have things in their contract as escalators for co-main status would be my guess.

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03-05-2017 , 06:01 PM

#12571

ShimmyBasis

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Both fighters lost all 5 rounds. Strip tyron of the belt, give it back to lawler, make GSP cut weight back down to ww and fight him for it. Then have bisping fight romero instead.

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03-05-2017 , 06:05 PM

#12572

ShimmyBasis

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Also if there is a wonderboy-woodley 3, make them fight in a phonebooth

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03-05-2017 , 06:26 PM

#12573

electricladylnd

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I really don't care who won the Woodley/karate kid fight, the fight sucked. If this was a school yard fight though, I would rather be Woodley showing up for school the next day.

I never mind fighters going slow and feeling each other out for Rd1, but Rd 2 was much of the same and it's not like they haven't fought before, their last fight was 5 rounds vs each other. By Rd 2 of fight II, they have 7 rounds on each other, just fvcking fight.

I doubt we ever see a third fight. Thank goodness.

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03-05-2017 , 07:00 PM

#12574

Johnny Truant

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I don't know. They have only fought for 50 minutes. Another 25-100 minutes of cage time with those two may be needed to really settle the question. I'd hate to see a couple of razor close decisions come back to haunt their respective GOAT arguments years from now. Run it back as many times as it takes.

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03-05-2017 , 07:15 PM

#12575

Onlydo2days

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

Hunt and/or (especially) Reem prbly have things in their contract as escalators for co-main status would be my guess.

Good point. Especially Reem would have that I think.

He is probably the biggest draw in the HW (not saying much but still), his fight with Stipe did OK on PPV.