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11-15-2015 , 06:47 AM
That post is sexist as ****
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11-15-2015 , 07:17 AM
That ducking slip Holm did was just hilarious. Really made RR look bad.
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11-15-2015 , 07:54 AM
Not sure how it's possible to even dislike Ronda a little bit let alone hate her like yall do. Probably just sexists who were afraid and intimidated by her dominance.

Also the new champ is really ugly so hopefully Ronda beats her in the rematch and we never have to see her again.
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11-15-2015 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Also the new champ is really ugly
Her straight left is beautiful tho
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11-15-2015 , 08:04 AM
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Women's MMA is about as deep as a thimble.
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This
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11-15-2015 , 08:43 AM
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Anyone who bought the Rousey hype was silly.

Women's MMA is about as deep as a thimble.

Rousey was a manufactured "super star.", manufactured by UFC and by the media. A decent female fighter who also happened to not look like a hideous monster. They knew she could make bank.
Was MMA deep when Jon Jones or GSP were destroying anybody ?
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11-15-2015 , 09:12 AM
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I'm not sure what the bolded means. If by "top dog" you mean top female draw, then that seems wrong. Big names stay big even after a few losses. Silva, De la Hoya, etc.



If you mean the top dog in terms of ability, tonight came pretty close to answering that question. She got beat worse than Travis Browne's ex.

Yeah, this, look at Nick Diaz basically the male Rousey
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11-15-2015 , 09:42 AM
Awesome fight (holm/rousey). When Holm slipped under the punch against the cage the look on Rousey's face said it all.

Also can the UFC get rid of Bruce Buffer? Is he hyping a fight or passing a kidney stone? I can't tell.
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11-15-2015 , 09:53 AM
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Probably just sexists who were afraid and intimidated by her dominance.

Also the new champ is really ugly so hopefully Ronda beats her in the rematch and we never have to see her again.
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11-15-2015 , 10:07 AM
So much for biggest and best mma star on the planet, meets a competent fighter and gets her ass handed to her.

Maybe this will put an end to Dana's fetish for watching ladies fight.
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11-15-2015 , 10:47 AM
There is no way this is not a disaster for MMA in terms of money. Much of Rousey's appeal was that she was once in a generation and could beat guys (such as the Rousey-Mayweather stuff). If she gets beat badly by some mediocre boxer, it's pretty clear she would get waffle-crushed by any middling man, much less Mayweather.

The only way this could be good is if Holm somehow is unbeatable after this, but based on her prior matches, that isn't likely. Yeah, they'll probably do ok on a rematch, but no where near as good as they would have done on a match between an unbeaten Rousey and Cyborg.
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11-15-2015 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Not sure how it's possible to even dislike Ronda a little bit let alone hate her like yall do. Probably just sexists who were afraid and intimidated by her dominance.

Also the new champ is really ugly so hopefully Ronda beats her in the rematch and we never have to see her again.
lol you're pathetic
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11-15-2015 , 10:56 AM
I'm not in the root against athletes or teams business but I was on Saturday Night. It's hard to think of anything more tilting in my 30ish years of watching sports than the RR hype and nonsense talk. I was happy that she got annihilated. Even in the aftermath people still can't let it go. Trying to compare her loss last night to Tyson vs Douglas is laughable. The title of Boxing's Heavyweight Champion of the world was at the time still one of the most prestigious titles in the world and had over 100 years of history and depth. By the time Tyson met his demise against Douglas he had blown through 7 opponents that were a major HW belt holder at the time of the fight or were a former HW major belt holder. Nothing RR had done in MMA/UFC was remotely comparable to being the Heavyweight Boxing Champion of the World. UFC created the women's bantamweight division in 2012 to try and make RR a star in which they succeeded. Then just comparing odds in the two fights. Tyson was a 42 to 1 favorite. Tyson losing to Douglas is legit one of the biggest upsets in the history of all of the world of sports. When I checked minutes before the fight on bovada Ronda was -850 and Holm was +550. An upset, sure but part of that is definitely the hype of RR but nothing on the level of Tyson losing to Douglas. But for people to just lose their minds in the hype because she was arm barring complete tomato cans and girls that had no business being in the ring is ridiculous. And obviously the whole "she can even beat men" narrative was so beyond ridiculous it's not even worth getting into.

Last edited by BiiiiigChips; 11-15-2015 at 11:19 AM.
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11-15-2015 , 10:58 AM
Producers of the new road house movie must be worried since rousey is the lead

MAybe UFC can hitch their wagon to Paige VanZant now

Also with the odds, I bet Holm +1100 early in the night and it just kept plummeting throughout the card. I don't think it was as big as an upset as people think.
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11-15-2015 , 10:59 AM
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There is no way this is not a disaster for MMA in terms of money. Much of Rousey's appeal was that she was once in a generation and could beat guys (such as the Rousey-Mayweather stuff). If she gets beat badly by some mediocre boxer, it's pretty clear she would get waffle-crushed by any middling man, much less Mayweather.

The only way this could be good is if Holm somehow is unbeatable after this, but based on her prior matches, that isn't likely. Yeah, they'll probably do ok on a rematch, but no where near as good as they would have done on a match between an unbeaten Rousey and Cyborg.
It's not a disaster for MMA, woman's MMA maybe but MMA will actually benefit if there is less high profile female fights happening as most people tend to not watch those.
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11-15-2015 , 11:11 AM
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There is no way this is not a disaster for MMA in terms of money. Much of Rousey's appeal was that she was once in a generation and could beat guys (such as the Rousey-Mayweather stuff). If she gets beat badly by some mediocre boxer, it's pretty clear she would get waffle-crushed by any middling man, much less Mayweather.
Bold is false. She was highly accomplished in women's boxing and had won a bunch of belts over different weight classes. She hadn't lost a boxing match in 7 years when she made her MMA debut. It's just that no one was watching because for the most part unless there is a media and hype agenda behind it (Christy Martin, Leila Ali, RR, etc) no one cares about watching women fight. What Holm had done in professional fighting was 10x more hype worthy than what RR had done in professional fighting before she started getting jammed down everyone's throat in 2012 by Dana White. Also, you really needed to see her get obliterated by Holly Holm to solidify the position that she would get destroyed by a man?
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11-15-2015 , 11:16 AM
Holm needs a new nickname.

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11-15-2015 , 11:17 AM
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Not sure how it's possible to even dislike Ronda a little bit let alone hate her like yall do. Probably just sexists who were afraid and intimidated by her dominance.

Also the new champ is really ugly so hopefully Ronda beats her in the rematch and we never have to see her again.
Rousey beat up her ex-boyfriend, believes 9-11 was an inside job and Sandy Hook was a hoax. Seems delusional imo.
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11-15-2015 , 11:18 AM
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Holy **** that's incredible.
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11-15-2015 , 11:20 AM
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It's not a disaster for MMA, woman's MMA maybe but MMA will actually benefit if there is less high profile female fights happening as most people tend to not watch those.
I don't see how it can help men's MMA. Anything that draws new people to watch MMA - even if women's - will help men's MMA as well (even if only a few stay).

I do agree that the effect on men's MMA is likely marginal, but see no way it's a positive, unless you think lots of people are blowing their MMA budget on Rousey fights and thus now will switch back to men's MMA.
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11-15-2015 , 11:27 AM
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Rousey beat up her ex-boyfriend, believes 9-11 was an inside job and Sandy Hook was a hoax. Seems delusional imo.
Complained (correctly) about Floyd being a woman beater all the while dating Travis Browne and was the focus of MMA's biggest hype train while participating in the shallowest division in MMA and fighting tomato cans he whole career (granted, there were only tomato cans at 135, but that's the point).

Satisfying to see her get KTFO
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11-15-2015 , 11:28 AM
These good/bad for MMA conversations everytime someone loses or wins are the nut low
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11-15-2015 , 11:42 AM
Holm's KO kick is interesting to watch in slo-mo. When Rousey was trying to get up, Holm pushes her. At first I thought why she did that, and then realized it was to create distance between her and Rousey to deliver the KO kick

Idk I don't watch MMA at all, I just thought that was cool
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11-15-2015 , 11:47 AM
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These good/bad for MMA conversations everytime someone loses or wins are the nut low
Maybe, but I think it's actually a valid conversation with RR. UFC was all-in with RR and the hype machine was cranked up to dizzying levels. When you have that much invested in someone who you have built up to be an invincible force and you've flirted with the narrative that "she can beat men as well if she wanted to" and they get their doors completely blown off then yeah a discussion of them losing in that fashion being good for your business or not should definitely be in play.
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