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07-16-2015 , 09:35 AM
No bias in retired Irish uber sharps that have only ever posted itt about Mcgregor tho
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07-16-2015 , 09:44 AM
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Why is CM's cardio considered so great? How is he built like a a distance runner?

McGregor has 1 career right past end of round 2 and 0 fights that went past round 3.
He is pretty much built like a miler, yes. The other two (Mendes & Aldo) are less lean and slightly more muscular. Their bone structure is also slightly thicker in proportion to their bodies. Mendes is absolutely not built for stamina. Aldo is kind of in the middle as some guys with his build have better stamina than he does, but overall he is slightly on the muscular side. With the obvious speed he has it shows a high proportion of fast twitch fibers and those are bad for stamina. McGregor has the best blend of the three. His body is just more sculpted, less body fat (even when not cutting weight), lighter bone structure, longer legs and arms. The very fact that he is way taller but still makes weight says a lot. He just has much more that distance runner body type built for stamina. Sure he hasn't had to show it yet in fights but trust me, a guy built like him has great cardio. He also showed zero signs of being tired after spending the best part of 2 rounds on his back. Of the top guys in that division, only Edgar & Hollaway would have cardio close to what McGregor has.
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07-16-2015 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
No bias in retired Irish uber sharps that have only ever posted itt about Mcgregor tho
For sure I seem to be a little biased, but come on man, you are way off the radar. At least I can admit Conor was eaten alive on the ground, TDD is poor and he can easily be beat in future if he doesn't brush up in these areas.

Saying Mendes had the better of it standing? C'mon!
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07-16-2015 , 11:32 AM
Went to the event live and was not disappointed, been to 6 live events and that was best of the lot by a mile. It's not just the bodywork that Mcgregor is doing which caused Mendes to gas it's the non stop pressure on the feet, at no point did Mendes (or anyone vs Mcgregor) control centre of the octagon. He cuts off the angles and basically had Mendes up against the cage for most striking exchanges only really circling after throwing shots to not be countered, it's Nick Diazesque pressure but with a far more technical and diverse striker who has KO power and it breaks people. Go watch any of his last fights and see how much Mcgregor is just walking them down non stop.
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07-16-2015 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 5=2+2
For sure I seem to be a little biased, but come on man, you are way off the radar. At least I can admit Conor was eaten alive on the ground, TDD is poor and he can easily be beat in future if he doesn't brush up in these areas.
.....but all your post sound like nobody, including Aldo has a chance vs him. He needs to more than "brush up" on his TDD, he needs to be focal points in his training.
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07-16-2015 , 01:56 PM
The body shots obviously helped but Mendes looked gassed after about 30 seconds.

Full camp Mendes crushes Conor imo. In fact he probably would have won the fight if he didn't go for a stupid choke. Why he didn't see out the round on top of Conor and try and recover a bit is beyond me.
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07-16-2015 , 01:57 PM
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The body shots obviously helped but Mendes looked gassed after about 30 seconds.

Full camp Mendes crushes Conor imo. In fact he probably would have won the fight if he didn't go for a stupid choke. Why he didn't see out the round on top of Conor and try and recover a bit is beyond me.
You willing to back that up with a wager? I'll take Mcgregor in any rematch.
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07-16-2015 , 01:57 PM
McGregor needs to hire someone like Phil Davis full time.

Gus sucked ass at wrestling then after losing to Davis he hired Davis and became awesome at wrestling. He stuffed all but one of jon Bones Jones takedowns and even was the first man ever to take Bones down.
And Bones proved he has better MMA wrestling than even Cormier.

Maybe seeing as they're BFFS now Conor should head down to team Alpha Male....hang on that wouldn't work with the TUF thing against Faber.
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07-16-2015 , 02:03 PM
McGregor is still gonna lose a lot of fights to wrestlers but Aldo is just a perfect match up for him. I have McGregor by KO on the 4th or 5th round. Aldo possibly dominating early by kicking and running.
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07-16-2015 , 02:04 PM
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You willing to back that up with a wager? I'll take Mcgregor in any rematch.
Come back to me when the rematch happens maybe in about 2-3 years
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07-16-2015 , 02:37 PM
There is def a lot of smart money being placed on the favorites. Seems like casuals hate putting $100 up to win $10 unless it's a big name.
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07-16-2015 , 02:43 PM
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There is next to none... if you have the roll and are able to place large bets on the right fights. I will give a hint to prospective bettors; most of the money is to be made due to the fact certain favorites' chances, especially the intelligent fighters, are grossly underrated. A perfect example is Sean Strickland vs. Araujo last night... barring a blown knee he couldn't have lost.
lol this is complete garbage imo saying theres almost no variance
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07-16-2015 , 02:45 PM
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07-16-2015 , 02:54 PM
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lol
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07-16-2015 , 04:17 PM
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.....but all your post sound like nobody, including Aldo has a chance vs him. He needs to more than "brush up" on his TDD, he needs to be focal points in his training.
Yes, except perhaps for a knee to the face, I believe that standing, absolutely no one (especially @ 145) has a hope in hell v him, including Aldo.

I agree with you re: wrestling & TDD. He clearly needs to do more than brush up. Poor wording by me. It seems a no brainer that he needs to work a huge amount on these things.

FWIW I also simply don't believe the talk of the injured knee that John Kavanagh (Conor's coach) spoke about to Ariel i.e. he had hurt his knee in camp and therefore did zero wrestling rounds in preparation. I just think he got whopped easier than they thought possible on the ground and now they are trying to cover it up with an excuse. Just my opinion, could be wrong.
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07-16-2015 , 04:19 PM
it was pretty well known his knee was bad in the leadup to the fight
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07-16-2015 , 04:33 PM
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it was pretty well known his knee was bad in the leadup to the fight

Really? First I heard of it but I don't have privy to that info.

I wonder did it happen sparring or just from running on the Vegas sidewalks in those crappy Reebok shoes. His foot placement isn't ideal for running as he over pronates (leans in) slightly, especially on his left leg and that is the main cause of knee problems in runners. I remember looking at him on the embedded, running on the Vegas sidewalks and thinking to myself that is not good long term for his knees. Even if this wasn't the problem, he still needs to run on grass (something like 40% more shock absorption on grass than concrete, way easier on the joints, particularly knee) and get fitted with some proper insoles.
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07-16-2015 , 04:37 PM
I'm not sure when it happened but he flew back to Los Angeles shortly after the World Tour to see specialists there. Heard this from a friend who met his manager at an event in Montreal, but it seems to have been leaked quite a bit.
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07-16-2015 , 04:48 PM
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I'm not sure when it happened but he flew back to Los Angeles shortly after the World Tour to see specialists there. Heard this from a friend who met his manager at an event in Montreal, but it seems to have been leaked quite a bit.

Hmm interesting. Good for Conor going forward if he really didn't have any wrestling practice.
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07-16-2015 , 06:53 PM
I like mcgregor. I think he can beat everyone in the featherweight division. And probably beat aldo (edgar deserves a chance at belt soon though).

If he moves up to 155lbs he would get smashed. Dos anjos, khabib, cerrone, pettis would smash him and do it in a dominating fashion.
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07-16-2015 , 07:32 PM
Yeah heard Khabib say that before. They are stronger and hit harder up there @155. I certainly wouldn't be as confident about him up there.

But again, at any weight none of them will ever have been presented with the range of shots that Conor will throw at them. Thing is they won't fall as easy and will his own chin stand up to cracks from the bigger guys?
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07-16-2015 , 10:49 PM
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He is pretty much built like a miler, yes. The other two (Mendes & Aldo) are less lean and slightly more muscular. Their bone structure is also slightly thicker in proportion to their bodies. Mendes is absolutely not built for stamina. Aldo is kind of in the middle as some guys with his build have better stamina than he does, but overall he is slightly on the muscular side. With the obvious speed he has it shows a high proportion of fast twitch fibers and those are bad for stamina. McGregor has the best blend of the three. His body is just more sculpted, less body fat (even when not cutting weight), lighter bone structure, longer legs and arms. The very fact that he is way taller but still makes weight says a lot. He just has much more that distance runner body type built for stamina. Sure he hasn't had to show it yet in fights but trust me, a guy built like him has great cardio. He also showed zero signs of being tired after spending the best part of 2 rounds on his back. Of the top guys in that division, only Edgar & Hollaway would have cardio close to what McGregor has.
Conor is only 1" or 2" taller than Aldo, depending on the source.

Maybe you are right, but I'd be very, very impressed at someone diagnosing a significant difference in cardio between two fighters @ 145 solely based on 1" or 2" of height difference and physiques that look roughly similar imo.

http://www.bjjheroes.com/wp-content/.../Jose-Aldo.jpg

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/sl...630&h=420&q=75
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07-16-2015 , 11:29 PM
Mcgregor should avoid 155 like the plague, after seeing what dos anjos did to pettis i think he would get killed. Khabib would wrestle fuark him as well. Those 2 guys are not good fights for him, cerrone is tough as well due to the length & striking, too many tough fights for him there, benson henderson too. Mcgregor vs pettis would be gr8 though, good style matchup.
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07-17-2015 , 12:04 AM
Conor isn't going to stay at 145 for ever. The weight cut is really rough and they're going to take away the IV bags in October.
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