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10-23-2022 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
The Phillies also had 11 hits. I'm not denying home run variance but when it's the same model with the same result postseason after postseason its time to rethink your analytics and do something different.
4 of those hits were HRs? You'd rather see an 11 hit, 3 run game than potentially scoring 10 runs?
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10-23-2022 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
4 of those hits were HRs? You'd rather see an 11 hit, 3 run game than potentially scoring 10 runs?
Huh? We live in strange times where all actual discussion and interaction is lost and people read something and assign the most extreme example to another individual as if they themselves actually said that.

To clarify. No. I'd rather a team that gets on base, gets 11 hits, works counts, has competitive at bats, etc... than a team that gets 2 hits and/or strikes out 17 times
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10-23-2022 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Huh? We live in strange times where all actual discussion and interaction is lost and people read something and assign the most extreme example to another individual as if they themselves actually said that.

To clarify. No. I'd rather a team that gets on base, gets 11 hits, works counts, has competitive at bats, etc... than a team that gets 2 hits and/or strikes out 17 times
But that's not what you said. You said the Phillies got 11 hits and ignored 4 of those hits were HRs. There is a big difference. What happens if 4 of those hits weren't HRs? They started down 4 runs, no?



For reference, the Phils did play "small ball" earlier in the playoffs and it did work out for them. However, what they were actually built for put them in the WS.
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10-23-2022 , 08:45 PM
They're doing that thing where they pitch to Harper. Like they don't have a scouting report or something.
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10-23-2022 , 08:51 PM
omg the yankkks scored a run!
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10-23-2022 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
But that's not what you said. You said the Phillies got 11 hits and ignored 4 of those hits were HRs. There is a big difference. What happens if 4 of those hits weren't HRs? They started down 4 runs, no?



For reference, the Phils did play "small ball" earlier in the playoffs and it did work out for them. However, what they were actually built for put them in the WS.
Nope. Again you're saying I said something I didn't say. Home runs aren't bad. The idea of filling your lineup with low contact high strikeout power guys is bad.

If you get 11 hits and aren't striking out 17 times the likelihood some of those hits are for extra bases or home runs is higher. If you get 11 hits then when you get those extra base hits or home run the chances that more runs score is also higher. When you strike out 17 times you're not getting guys on base, your not moving runners, you're not working the opposing pitcher and if and when the HR does come you're getting 1 run instead of more than 1 run.

I can't believe this is hard
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10-23-2022 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
omg the yankkks scored a run!
Too many runs scored without a home run! Boone might be off'd mid inning. Front office can't allow this!
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10-23-2022 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Nope. Again you're saying I said something I didn't say.

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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
The Phillies also had 11 hits

You literally didn't address that 4 of those hits were HRs or multiple base hits.
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10-23-2022 , 09:20 PM
Love Rizzo! More hits! Less strikeouts! More runs!!! How are they doing this??
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10-23-2022 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
You literally didn't address that 4 of those hits were HRs or multiple base hits.
Huh? I think I explained it pretty clearly in my last response to you. What aren't you following?

Whew back to striking out with runners on 2nd and 3rd
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10-23-2022 , 09:33 PM
Pena hr a classic example of what I'm talking about. 2 guys before him worked the count and got on base then Pena worked a count to 3-1 and feasted with guys on base. Home runs are good. Contact and plate discipline is equally important

Having a lineup of guys who swing for the fences or strikeout is bad
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10-23-2022 , 09:37 PM
Also lol Yankees for having 3 legit specs as SS and playing none of them at SS in September and just rolling with lol IKF. Astros play Pena and guy is bossing the postseason.

At this point I should probably just be happy they didn't go get Trevor Story or some overpaid veteran
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10-23-2022 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Huh? I think I explained it pretty clearly in my last response to you. What aren't you following?
I guess not. Sorry about that.
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10-23-2022 , 09:59 PM
Well **** Yanks held the lead for one whole inning.
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10-23-2022 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
Pena hr a classic example of what I'm talking about. 2 guys before him worked the count and got on base then Pena worked a count to 3-1 and feasted with guys on base. Home runs are good. Contact and plate discipline is equally important

Having a lineup of guys who swing for the fences or strikeout is bad
The Yankees led the majors in walks in 2022 and were 4th in on-base percentage.
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10-23-2022 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LFC_USA
The Astros are a model organization. Don't overpay your stars. Don't be afraid to let them walk. And have guys ready to replace them.
You simply don't understand how the game works. As I had explained before, it's almost entirely about getting surplus value from cost-controlled players. There's no pattern where star free agents tend to be overpaid relative to non-star free agents - free agents get paid market value regardless of who they are and if you compare them to cost-controlled players, they are almost always going to look like bad value. This doesn't mean that star players are disproportionately bad value and unless you are exceptional (or lucky) at acquiring and developing players, you're going to need to overspend in free agency at times in order to consistently field a competitive team.

The key here is about getting good value from cost-controlled players, but this requires good scouting and player development. This has nothing to do with any of the nonsense you've been spouting, not paying your star players or not paying attention to analytics doesn't magically result in more top prospects. If anything, paying your home-grown star players is almost certainly going to have a positive impact on your prospects and analytics are extremely important nowadays for both scouting and player development.
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10-23-2022 , 10:19 PM
Rizzo so good
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10-23-2022 , 10:58 PM
God I love Bader too. Great trade a lot of folks killed Cashman for. Let's goo!!!!

Boone and front office computer managing the biggest culprit
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10-23-2022 , 11:21 PM
Wow Altuve got that tie call at first and then the error on a tailor made DP ball... Yanks seem destined to get swept.
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10-23-2022 , 11:46 PM
Hopefully stros realize Yuli luck has run out and that he is and has always been a gidp machine. Cost them 2020 alcs.
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10-23-2022 , 11:50 PM
Lol Donaldson just keeps taking third strikes and then complaining to the umps
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10-23-2022 , 11:55 PM
Leave montero in pressley going to f up and make this a 13 inning game.
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10-24-2022 , 12:02 AM
Astros need to hold on so Verlander can pitch game one.
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10-24-2022 , 12:12 AM
Ohtani MVP!
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10-24-2022 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
Astros need to hold on so Verlander can pitch game one.
The guy is 40, he'll be locked in after a shakey 1st, but thankfully Stros have 7 SPs to choose from.
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