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Big XII BBall...Our One-Team Conference is Better Than Your Conference. Which team is it again? Big XII BBall...Our One-Team Conference is Better Than Your Conference. Which team is it again?

02-08-2010 , 11:01 PM
random 1st team Big12 thought: big men have to be Morris + Udoh right? Cannot fathom Aldrich getting the nod the way he's playing lately. I'm sure Collins/James will be on there b/c they haven't played poorly enough to lose their preseason spot and I guess the 5th goes to Anderson. Shame that out of Pullen/Sloan/Dunn/Carter/Burks/Clemente 4 of them will get left of 1st/2nd team honors. Hell I'm probably forgetting someone, Mason-Griffin maybe?
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02-08-2010 , 11:01 PM
Yep, Texas has a lot of talent. Barnes seems to be doing a particularly poor job of coaching this team.
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02-08-2010 , 11:22 PM
I haven't watched any ISU games but isn't Brackins going to be in the discussion too?
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02-08-2010 , 11:26 PM
not when you go 4-12 in conference and he's only avg like 17.5 in Big12 play
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02-08-2010 , 11:31 PM
I don't see Cole getting left off. He's #2 in blocks and #3 in boards in conference. Maybe his 11.6 ppg could hold him back.
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02-08-2010 , 11:37 PM
except you're doing exactly what voters do and not realizing Udoh is better in him in all those categories and also FG%

a lot depends on if you say a team consists of 5-4-3-2-1 or 2g/2f/1c of 3f/2g
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02-08-2010 , 11:41 PM
I meant Cole and Udoh instead of Marcus, although Marcus might be more deserving.
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02-08-2010 , 11:43 PM
that's why it's interesting, if you take 2 of those 3, plus James/Anderson, then you only have 1 spot for a guard and that's going to go to Collins although I don't think he's playing all that great.
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02-09-2010 , 01:39 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and argue that Cole is opening up a lot of opportunities for Marcus and he's capitalizing on them. I still like Cole on the first team along with Collins from KU.
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02-09-2010 , 01:44 AM
Who's coach of the year? Player of the year?

still too early?
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02-09-2010 , 02:58 AM
Turge/Anderson if both teams finish strong and make the tourney otherwise it'll go to Self/Collins//James
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02-09-2010 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Spenda
except you're doing exactly what voters do and not realizing Udoh is better in him in all those categories and also FG%

a lot depends on if you say a team consists of 5-4-3-2-1 or 2g/2f/1c of 3f/2g
He said in-conference, Udoh is not better in either category you mention. Nor is Udoh even close to ahead in FG% (50.7% to 41.3%).

If you were talking season-long then Udoh is better in blocks and rebounds (both are pretty close), but behind in FG% and wayyy behind in points per shot. Both Cole and Marcus have been much more efficient scorers especially in conference season.

I definitely think Udoh should be in the discussion, I'm just not sure where you're getting your numbers.
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02-09-2010 , 04:45 PM
Was looking at the score of the Texas game last night:

14-8, "hey, they are coming out strong, wow!"

Next time I check:

14-30. "Oops."
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02-09-2010 , 05:10 PM
I took them off the Big12 website
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02-09-2010 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Spenda
Turge/Anderson if both teams finish strong and make the tourney otherwise it'll go to Self/Collins//James
I think Turg has a good shot if he can make the top 3 of the final standings.

On the other hand, KU has a pretty decent chance of winning out (around 1 in 3) which would have them winning the Big 12 by at least 4 full games. I can't fathom Self not getting it in that scenario.

Last edited by KUJustin; 02-09-2010 at 08:46 PM.
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02-09-2010 , 08:51 PM
Ya I cant disagree, he does have the fact that he won it last year working against him

Tech/OU tonight, pretty important game for both teams, a lot of good guard play in this one
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02-10-2010 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TexArcher
One-team conference? Really?

Come on, man, Texas was pretty good last year, only lost one decent player, and added an insane amount of freshman talent, as in one-and-done talent. They're legit as hell.
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Noted and updated
Re-updated.
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02-10-2010 , 06:04 PM
KSU is new #2 imo. Also Baylor and MU will probably win an ncaa tourney game. Texas is still capable of turning it around. A&M is probably a tourney team. Big 12 getting underrated as usual.
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02-10-2010 , 06:32 PM
i think we get 4 in the sweet 16 and 2 in the elite 8
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02-10-2010 , 06:33 PM
and 1 champion
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02-10-2010 , 08:00 PM
I have a feeling the committee is only going to put 6 Big12 teams in leaving OkieLite, OU, and Tech all on the outside looking in. Colorado/Nebraska/ISU will all need to win the Big12 tourney.

The key to 7 teams is OkieLite, if they can right the ship they do have some solid RPI wins @KSU, vs A&M and they still get Kansas and Baylor at home as well as Texas and A&M on the road. They get 2 of those 4 while taking care of business at home vs. OU/Nebraska and that puts them at 20-10 (8-8) which should get them in.

I got to think any 20-win Big12 team with at least a .500 conference record is a lock.
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02-11-2010 , 12:12 AM
Wow....Nebraska was beyond painful in the final minute of their game against Baylor.....anybody else see it? Sadler is not the guy for NU unfortunately.
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02-11-2010 , 12:38 AM
found myself fistpumping when NU hit that 3 to go up 55-52, really not a fan of Baylor or anyone associated with that University/Town/Coaching Staff/etc...

Sadler is the guy, he was out of time outs b/c a player slipped while going for a loose ball with 75sec left. If he keeps his feet and lays it in you're in this thread talking about what a big win that was for the program.
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02-11-2010 , 03:14 PM
No, I'm definitely not. I don't follow NU basketball at all. I couldn't care less if they went 0-16 or 16-0. I only watched the game because (1) it was close (2) it was important for BU and (3) the Duke-UNC game was decided.

I believe in Doc Sadler's X's and O's but being a successful coach is about a lot more than that if you're in a Big 6 conference. I read these excuses after every loss from Doc and the players and wonder when enough is enough. They're stupid, inexcusable mistakes and after 4+ years these problems should be behind them. Sadler hasn't accomplished anything significant in his time that Barry Collier didn't accomplish.
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02-11-2010 , 03:58 PM
Nebraska played a great game until the final minute. His biggest problem is that he doesn't have a go-to guy for the end of games, he has a team of role players.
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