Lol Mets. Terrible loss.

Holy crap, I'm a huge jinx.

Here for the LOL METS

So Anthony Bass relief pitcher for Toronto makes a bunch of anti LGBT posts on Twitter. At some point later he is booed heavily while pitching in Toronto. Now he's released.

Conservatives are all saying he was booed because he apologized. That seems like an odd take to me that seems unlikely to be true. Especially in Toronto, which would one of the most liberal MLB crowds. But how would anyone know the truth? People could of course boo for either reason.

What do you guys think?

Just asking questions..? He didn't really apologize and was booed for being an intolerant idiot in a place that generally doesn't tolerate that kind of stuff unless you're really really good at sports

That's what makes sense. But every single conservative source is trying to say that the fans were booing him for caving to the woke and apologizing for what they feel was no wrongdoing. It's really bizarre and they all believe it.

lol nice

Perfect post-truth lunacy that constitutes today's news.

People are saying whatever fits their narrative.

I have a hard time believing there are still professional athletes who don't understand that whatever they post on social media falls under "don't sh*t where you eat". Especially if you are as replaceable as a 35 year old journeyman relief pitcher.

some professional athletes can be really dumb. and I mean really dumb.

Wonder who will have the better career: Elly De La Cruz or Victor Wembanyama? Be a heck of a poll. I wouldn't want to bet too much either way.

Yo ... it's Gibson. Final answer. (No data from back then here.)

Wembayama has higher floor and higher ceiling just by the nature of the sport and pop as coach

De La Cruz seems good but there’s a massive trail of tears in baseball of the ‘next big thing’

Well if you don't have data, it's definitely not Gibson.

Seattle with 10 hits through 3.2

Maaan, this season is hype

Wanna bet?

Gibson v. Koufax (pre '68 of course), Gibson v. Drysdale, Gibson v. Marichal, etc in '68. That's the nuts in this category.

Bet on what? If you can produce over/under betting lines from 1968, there's a good chance it's Gibson vs. XYZ. Definitely not Koufax though, he retired in 1966. That was a year Gibson had a 2.44 ERA.

If you can't produce any actual lines, there's zero reason to treat 1968 different than 1908. Why would 1.12 ERA Gibson vs. 2.43 ERA Marichal produce a lower o/u than 1.16 ERA Joss vs. 1.26 ERA Cy Young or 1.42 ERA Ed Walsh who had 42 complete games that season?

Brewers just got swept by the A's I think

I really love the attention EDLC is getting and this is great for the game of baseball but this is a really bad comparison - aside from what SRM mentioned (basketball prospects are much surer things than baseball prospects, though I'm not sure this necessarily applies to players that have succeeded in the high minors), EDLC is not that type of prospect in the first place. He was around the 5th best prospect at the beginning of the year and he moved up largely because the other, better, prospects graduated, though he also showed better discipline at the plate in the minors. His tools are incredible - that combination of power/arm/run is rare - but as a total package, he doesn't separate himself from the pack among rookie-eligible prospects this year. The main issue is that his hit tool - the most important of the 5 tools for position players - is easily his worst tool and might even be below average. Meanwhile, Wemby is a generational prospect that's legitimately being compared to Lebron & Kareem as one of the best prospects ever.

None of this doesn't mean EDLC won't be a star - obviously he has tons of potential and he's certainly one of the most electric athletes in the game today - but he has pretty high bust potential, we just don't know if he will make contact consistently enough at the big league level and we also don't know if he will be able to play middle infield. If neither happens, he might not even be an average player - it's entirely possible he's like a 210/280/450 hitter with average glove at 3B. He's also as good a bet as any at his age to become Trout/Tatis like generational player.

Yeah there's a big, non-zero reason. The modern game post dead ball era is kind of the subject here, and the record for posted over/under numbers. The prospect of there being any over/unders in 1908 is the zero factor. 1968 is feasible for there being such gambling numbers. Right?

I agree. The "how is he going to hit major league pitching" may be the biggest question mark/variable in projected sports performance of prospects.

Yeah but it says here Wemby also has a big bust factor. He might be more like a Globetrotter than a legit MVP type. We'll see. Interesting that you cite De La Cruz as incredible and electric, but say it isn't a good comparison. Who are the other prospects now in MLB that are incredible and electric? I say neither will come close to any super-star status.

Wemby does NOT have a big bust factor.


At the very least he will be a reasonably good offensive player and one of the, if not the best, defensive player in the league. If you're accounting injury risk into bust that's one thing, but I'm not.

So you don't count Greg Oden as a draft bust?

injury bust would be my classification.


I reserve outright "bust" labels for players like former #1 pick Anthony Bennett.

Yes I'm counting physical problems, mental problems (Wie, Fultz, Simmons, Leaf, Tebow, the possibility of simply not making it as an adult, let alone a lion as is required to succeed in the NBA, drugs, other meltdowns, all the things that derail any person this compounded by the massive attention paid to his every move since jr. high school). I think if he lasts in the league he'll be some kind of serviceable oddity more so than a star or superstar. Far south of Ralph Sampson's first 3 seasons. Would be glad to be wrong but I don't see him as the heir apparent like James indeed did figure to be. Nothing like that. We'll see.