This is actually amusing.

What exactly is a "hip-hop barbecue"?

A hip hop bbq is something you'd be afraid to set foot in, but would end up telling us you have friends who told you all about it.

Makes total sense.

http://nation.foxnews.com/president-...ile-rome-burns

"While Rome burns" in the URL is a nice fair and balanced touch.

No, it isnt. Thats a terrible amount of question begging.

This is 100% bull****. If posters started to seriously criticize what was in the Quran and what was in Sharia law, the very first thing that you would say would be "Who cares about that its not what ACTUAL Muslims believe/do."

I'm sure this is just me crying though, whatever makes you have to think less.

Start?!?!?! Thats basically the entire purpose of this forum isnt it? Its quite funny that you think this is a good argument.

Yes it is and no it isn't.

Good read, microbet and Chips Ahoy. Good read.

The definition of Islamophobia is "the belief that Islam is a violent religion?" I cant find that anywhere. And if it turns out that the correct view is that Islam IS a violent religion (surely you wouldn't claim this is somehow logically impossible) then the correct position for everyone in the world is Islamophobia? We'd just...get rid of the negative connotations?

You are saying this because you think it is clear that Islam is NOT a violent religion, and that the only reason anyone would think it IS a violent religion is because they hate Muslims or something. Thats begging the question. Islamophobia is prejudice against Islam, or probably against Muslims, or more specifically an irrational fear of Islam or Muslims. It does not require prejudice or hatred or fear to hold a belief that Islam is a violent religion.

In fact, probably many or even most Islamic terrorists hold the belief that Islam is a violent religion! They must be Islamophobic...

Hahahaha

Lol. More whining.

There's a difference in targeting the Quran and targeting a billion+ people as if they're all violent savages. Ignorant people do the latter.

It isn't my fault if clown shows can't figure out the large majority of Muslims don't go around blowing stuff up, and still depicting them that way is bigoted beyond belief.

It's funny how all you Anti-Muslim bigots itt flail around trying to paint it any other way than bigotry lol

There are way too many things in here that aren't true.

The question "is Islam a violent religion?" is really such a ridiculous question that no one with half a brain would answer it yes or no or maybe even discuss it at all.

Too easy's post was a very clear manifestation of fear of Muslims ie Islamaphobia.

What's your point here?

Who else was called a nazi?

Like, at face value, vhawk and Renton literally do not have a point. It's just whining, and really unfocused and incoherent whining. "Don't call people wearing SS shirts Nazis" and ****.

But it is not a coincidence that someone with vhawk's views on how date rape is a feminist hoax or Renton's view on how many black Baltimoreans are in gangs end up on the same side of this debate.

DVaut came up with this analogy and it fits really well to explain what's going on here. The issue here is "the talking stick". What vhawk and Renton want is to get their turn at the talking stick to tell us all Their Thoughts On The Moslem. And that's it. Any actual Muslims who want to say "hey drawing the Prophet is violating a sacred principle of my religion, please stop"... those people don't have the talking stick.

Liberals who want to say "hey you're actually socially awkward reactionaries on the internet, your racism is embarrassing, here's why you're wrong"...

No talking stick. They can't say anything either.

What they want to happen here is real simple: They state their piece, and nobody disagrees with them. Other people do not have the talking stick, so they say silent.

Part of a post I made earlier in this thread:

vhawk,

Are you only talking about posters or do you think it isn't hateful to set up Mohammed art contests outside of random Mosques? Or banning Sharia in American cities with virtually no Muslims and certainly no call for Sharia?

These are not the same things as political satire.

And we know all the stuff you list doesn't occur among all Muslim communities.

It's widespread enough to be a valid concern.

I think the bikers and the "artists" are probably Islamophobic by basically any definition.

Paul D implied that the previous posters were nazis. Those posters got offended. You and Chips Ahoy jumped in to defend him by pointing out that, strictly speaking, he didnt actually say they were nazis, he only was talking about the ACTUAL nazi, and he wasnt implying anything outside of that, and they were totally out of line, and being overly sensitive....

And then Paul D proved them right and both of you very wrong a few posts later. It was unwise of you to give Paul D so much of the benefit of the doubt that he couldnt POSSIBLY have been implying that posters in this thread were nazis.

Why not? Those communities are just better at reading the Quran?

lol, just like a little yapdog, thinking if he just barks loud enough and long enough....