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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-26-2017 , 01:37 AM
It's now 5 full days after he was sworn in and he's still lying about something as trivial as the size of the crowd at his inauguration.
01-26-2017 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
at least his word is his word unlike any other politician that's ever existed
except when it comes to paying money he owes
01-26-2017 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
Trump proves you are definitely correct

Saturday Jan 21st 2017: Trump participates in a consultation at the CIA headquarters to let them know they will get so much backing they will wonder what they'll do with so much backing
Sunday Jan 22nd 2017: Trump schedules a meeting with PM of Canada, announces plans to meet with President of Mexico, announces intentions to begin negotiations with NAFTA
Spicer called it "working day one" at his Monday press conference and Trump previously announced he would take the weekend off following the inauguration, but I guess "his word" wasn't good there since he did show up to give an unhinged speech at the CIA and I guess schedule some future meetings.

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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
Love him or hate him, and I truly understand why people could hate him mistankingly, but at least his word is his word unlike any other politician that's ever existed
Oh? So he's released his tax returns? Jesus you're gullible.
01-26-2017 , 01:38 AM
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01-26-2017 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I wish we could have successfully made the case that lower taxes and allegedly "fixing" the ACA is not a good trade off for the end of the USA. I know several people who voted like that
The insanity surrounding taxes would make you think we were all getting taxed at 99.99%. The only country I've lived in with less taxes than us is Switzerland and they have special taxes on stuff you are forced to buy like specific trash bags for each canton, etc. so the tax shows up there. There was even like a 600chf TV/radio tax each year you had to pay to a private company that collected the fee for the govt.

It amazes me how much people trust the Republicans to repeal and replace something they've spent 6+ years saying they would do and yet none of them have an actual idea as to what the replace aspect of it will be. People still bought it though. Not sure who said this but I completely agree that if the Dems were competent they would shout single-payer for the next 4 years if they do end up repealing the ACA.
01-26-2017 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
You can call Trump every derogatory name in the book and be right except one. LAZY...

For good or ill has there ever been a more active (hesitate to use the word robust) week 1 of a presidency?
Trump is lazy. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and would have gone broke but for being an excellent conman. The author of The Art of the Deal explains Trump's failings here
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“Trump has been written about a thousand ways from Sunday, but this fundamental aspect of who he is doesn’t seem to be fully understood,” Schwartz told me. “It’s implicit in a lot of what people write, but it’s never explicit—or, at least, I haven’t seen it. And that is that it’s impossible to keep him focussed on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then . . . ” Schwartz trailed off, shaking his head in amazement. He regards Trump’s inability to concentrate as alarming in a Presidential candidate. “If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said.
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Originally Posted by th14
President Trump is a workaholic, he never stops working for the Ame-

01-26-2017 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by locknopair
people need to wake up and realize this isn't even about left, right, or center anymore. this is about fascism straight up destroying our democracy.
If it means denying brown people they'll be enthusiastically for it.
01-26-2017 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
LOOOL at building a 2000 mile wall for $8-$14B. Try changing that to a $8T. In LA 10 miles of carpool lane on the 405 cost $1B+ and took like 8 years.
01-26-2017 , 01:51 AM
Lol TRUMP on tv saying he digs torture. This dude seems a bit loopy.

Also Pres. Trump on receiving nuclear codes: "It is a very sobering moment, yes. It's very, very, very scary in a sense." Uh, yeah, help.
01-26-2017 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet

A long time ago the skinheads were divided between racist and not racist.

For example:

Now Gwen Stephani probably didn't count as a skinhead and I don't know anything about The Vandals who wrote this song, but the song is about anti-racist skinheads.

...

Anyway, I'm not an expert or anything, but I had a friend in the 80s who was a mod and, at least in the Bay Area, there were skinheads and racist skinheads. Sometime later it seems like that wasn't true and it was 100% racist.
Yeah man, you're thinking of the SHARPs. They're still a thing but they've ran off the racist skins and others in the big cities. There was a particularly wild group of them in Chicago that used to terrorize all the neo-nazi and KKK gatherings decades back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhe...cial_Prejudice

Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice (SHARP) are anti-racist skinheads who oppose neo-fascists and other political racists, particularly if those racists identify themselves as skinheads. SHARPs draw inspiration from the biracial origins of the skinhead subculture, and resent what they see as the hijacking of the "skinhead" name by white power skinheads (sometimes deriding them as "boneheads"). Beyond the opposition to racism, there is no official SHARP political ideology.
01-26-2017 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Spicer called it "working day one" at his Monday press conference and Trump previously announced he would take the weekend off following the inauguration, but I guess "his word" wasn't good there since he did show up to give an unhinged speech at the CIA and I guess schedule some future meetings.
Here's a link to the CNN video of him at the CIA press conference on Saturday. I don't know what confusion Spicer created but here is the video evidence that he didn't take that day off

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politi...two/index.html

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Oh? So he's released his tax returns? Jesus you're gullible.
No he hasn't released his tax returns. Maybe he had a losing year(s) which the average joe would think was a sin against humanity, are we really going to debate on a poker forum that how that sample size is relevant?
01-26-2017 , 01:58 AM
01-26-2017 , 02:13 AM
Arguing that he's not lazy. The supporters of this guy are the ****ing worst. Trying to find any trait that paints him in a positive light. Pathetic.
01-26-2017 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
LOOOL at building a 2000 mile wall for $8-$14B. Try changing that to a $8T. In LA 10 miles of carpool lane on the 405 cost $1B+ and took like 8 years.
You need to lower your shook level from a 37/10 to like a 13/10.

Just spit balling here, but there hasn't been 8T worth of public infrastructure spending in the entire US, state + local + federal, this millenium.

Hell the total value of US infrastruture is probably <40T dollars for everything!

If you even Buffetted, you would know that for around 7T dollars you could own all the farmland in the United States, 7 Exxon Mobils, and still have a trillion dollars in walking around money!!!

Try injecting a little perspective into your rants.

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01-26-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
Here's a link to the CNN video of him at the CIA press conference on Saturday. I don't know what confusion Spicer created but here is the video evidence that he didn't take that day off
There was no confusion, it was announced in advance - Trump: Monday will be day one of administration. He gave a speech, doesn't seem like he actually did much.

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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
No he hasn't released his tax returns.
He promised he would. Seems his word is just as ****ty as every other politician, and you're insanely gullible for thinking he's trustworthy.
01-26-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
maybe Jesus is doing this

01-26-2017 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
No he hasn't released his tax returns. Maybe he had a losing year(s) which the average joe would think was a sin against humanity, are we really going to debate on a poker forum that how that sample size is relevant?
The point was, you said he keeps his promises. He promised to release his tax returns. He has not done so. It doesnt matter if it was a losing year or not (note: Most candidates release multiple years of returns) your statement that he always keeps his word is patently false from this example alone.
01-26-2017 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JPantz

Has anyone thought about actually moving in order to influence elections or run for office in a leaning GOP state? We have four years, if a million of those Dem votes in California move to concentrated areas in swing states.
Electoral college needs to be abolished or bypassed with the National Popular vote compact. The latter should actually be doable. One person, one vote, is the only fair way to elect the president.

Gerrymander of state districts is bad too. I have not thought of a solution, but maybe something along the lines of just voting for party. Then if a state has 10 reps, and party vote went 30% dem, 30% gop, 20% ind. 10% green and 10% commie, then dems get 3 reps, gop 3, ind 2, green 1 and commie 1. Then have it up to the state parties to pick the candidates to send to washington. No more need for gerrymandered districts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...rstate_Compact
01-26-2017 , 02:39 AM
Trump tweeting "carnage" was him self-referencing and congratulating for using that word in his inauguration speech


01-26-2017 , 02:42 AM
lol the guy is infamous for not keeping his word and being a repeat scam artist

BOY DOES HE KEEP HIS WORD THO, wait what were talking about? Emails?
01-26-2017 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
Love him or hate him, and I truly understand why people could hate him mistankingly, but at least his word is his word unlike any other politician that's ever existed
Speechless.

Just as the most trivial example, Trump promised to have Clinton indicted repeatedly, including sending out a fundraising email promising this explicitly on June 29 last year. How is that working out?
01-26-2017 , 03:32 AM
lol at Trump working hard

You think that Obama signed less executive orders because his signing hand was tired and he wanted to play golf?

Being President is certainly a difficult job when they try to do things right, build consensus, find the right balance, consider the consequences of their actions... But that's not what Trump is doing! He goes in front of crowds to say whatever pops in his head and people clap, he calls cameras to film him signing papers with bigly words on them and then he watches himself on TV. He's doing none of the difficult parts of being president and he's having the time of his life.
01-26-2017 , 03:35 AM
I legitimately don't know a person in all of real life or fiction who lies more than trump. Any examples?
01-26-2017 , 03:41 AM
The thought police in 1984.

Last edited by Kukraprout; 01-26-2017 at 03:43 AM. Reason: Nvm, I read like Trump instead of more than Trump
01-26-2017 , 03:42 AM
Remember alternative facts aren't lies.

      
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