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01-27-2017 , 06:03 PM

#1926

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Originally Posted by otatop

I think exhibit A is this sentence:

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"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."

01-27-2017 , 06:06 PM

#1927

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Trump outs the environmental fox in charge of the environmental hen house

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A LOBBYIST FOR*a utility company that heavily relies on coal-fueled power plants and has clashed with regulators is the new acting assistant attorney general in charge of the Department of Justice division that oversees environmental crimes.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/27/coal-doj-trump/

01-27-2017 , 06:15 PM

#1928

Uh*Oh

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

i heard that it was a self-selected crowd, meaning anyone could come if they wanted but nobody had to. i also heard the front row was top brass and they were all stoneface the whole time

Here's more details on the fake applause
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/...cia-visit.html

01-27-2017 , 06:16 PM

#1929

FlyWf

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Jesus Christ

01-27-2017 , 06:18 PM

#1930

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Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

Here's more details on the fake applause
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/...cia-visit.html

Politicusis a terrible source, fyi.

01-27-2017 , 06:18 PM

#1931

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Jesus Christ

I'm so shocked I might need a fainting couch.

01-27-2017 , 06:19 PM

#1932

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

I read elsewhere that the first three rows of the CIA speech audience were not CIA employees, they were handpicked Trump supporters brought in for the occasion, one of whom lead every outburst of applause and they all chimed in when prompted. Most of the CIA employees were silent and understandably appalled.

I went to a WPT event final table between Dan Harrington and one of the Phams that was the most boring poker I've ever seen. WPT obviously had paid shills in the crowd trying to pump people up. Flop 3-9-J rainbow - crowd goes "OOOOOHHHH!!!!".

Microbet can corroborate.

01-27-2017 , 06:22 PM

#1933

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1 week down!

Spoiler:

01-27-2017 , 06:25 PM

#1934

microbet

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I was all ready to post "hey, I was there with you."

01-27-2017 , 06:25 PM

#1935

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Politicusis a terrible source, fyi.

I went to the CBS article it was basically repackaging and saw this:

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Authorities are also pushing back against the perception that the CIA workforce was cheering for the president. They say the first three rows in front of the president were largely made up of supporters of Mr. Trump’s campaign.

An official with knowledge of the make-up of the crowd says that there were about 40 people who’d been invited by the Trump, Mike Pence and Rep. Mike Pompeo teams. The Trump team originally expected Rep. Pompeo, R-Kansas, to be sworn in during the event as the next CIA director, but the vote to confirm him was delayed on Friday by Senate Democrats. Also sitting in the first several rows in front of the president was the CIA’s senior leadership, which was not cheering the remarks.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Monday denied that there were “Trump or White House folks” in the first rows.

“There were no Trump or White House folks sitting down. They were all CIA (unintelligible). So, not in rows one-through-anything, from what I’m told.” Spicer said at the White House briefing Monday. He did not address whether Pompeo invitees were in the first rows.

A source who is familiar with the planning of the president’s CIA visit saw Spicer’s briefing, however, and firmly denied Spicer’s response was accurate.

So, either the CIA people that CBS talked to is lying, or Spicer was lying. Obviously I have a predictable opinion about which one is the case, but even beyond that, think about what the fact that either of them is lying says about the rift between the intelligence community and Trump.

01-27-2017 , 06:29 PM

#1936

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honestly the Muslim ban, the wall, the enthusiastic use of torture, the shutting down of climate change research and the general dismantling of the free press are all things that Trump openly campaigned on. He's supposed to be doing all these things, because that's what the US electorate voted for. It's depressing but it's true.

01-27-2017 , 06:31 PM

#1937

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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb

JFC, people on the goddamn internet are talking about his health issues. If the Wall Street Journal, WaPo or NYT talk about it, we do have a discussion. But just because people on Twitter give their unqualified opinion, doesnt mean it is a thing.

We are bashing Trump supporters for taking things as granted just because some dude on Twitter posted it and yet do the same.

*edit* And iam not talking about the Narcissism here. Like already mentioned, his tendencys are clear to everyone who saw him campaigning. And we discussion the aftermath of this permanently. But saying he does have dementia or a mental break down just because of his foolish rambling is unfounded.

I'm not sure what your point is any longer. Only thing I can surmise is that you don't think we should judge his actions based on his narcissism and i completely disagree given his narcissism clearly will influence his actions. I get the sense though that you may be arguing a different point than I am and we are talking past each other.

01-27-2017 , 06:34 PM

#1938

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich

My two mantras about the current administration:

They have no shame.
Everything plays to the base.

It all makes sense through those two lenses.

01-27-2017 , 06:36 PM

#1939

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

I went to the CBS article it was basically repackaging and saw this:

So, either the CIA people that CBS talked to is lying, or Spicer was lying. Obviously I have a predictable opinion about which one is the case, but even beyond that, think about what the fact that either of them is lying says about the rift between the intelligence community and Trump.

Lol, Spicer's getting fed lies to go out and get clobbered over.

01-27-2017 , 06:38 PM

#1940

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It's a mad, mad world when the CIA isn't the bad guy when you read those stories lol

01-27-2017 , 06:41 PM

#1941

Uh*Oh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Lol, Spicer's getting fed lies to go out and get clobbered over.

Presidents and their minions have lied throughout history, but this is the first time I've seen their own CIA publicly contradict them.

01-27-2017 , 06:43 PM

#1942

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Originally Posted by JoltinJake

1 week down!

Spoiler:

doubt trump lasts 100 weeks

01-27-2017 , 06:44 PM

#1943

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Jesus Christ

"but they were chopping off the heads of everybody but more so the Christians"

If it wasn't so tragic you could almost laugh at it.

01-27-2017 , 06:51 PM

#1944

ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by .isolated

He can't possibly have actually said this...right? Maybe he should off himself up for waterboarding "for hours" just to make sure.

edit: lol at the Freudian Slip of "off himself". **** him

“Prisoners who are forced to endure a few hours of simulated drowning hardly experience the unrelenting horror that tears at my psyche night and day,” said Trump, adding that being strapped to a chair in a filthy concrete cell and repeatedly suffocated was a “stroll in the park” compared to the cruel and inhuman anguish his mind is subjected to literally every single second. “What is having gallons of water forced into your lungs compared to the nightmare that has never once released its grip on me? Waterboarding only brings a prisoner to the brink of death. I die a thousand times a day.”

01-27-2017 , 06:55 PM

#1945

Dominic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp

Trump such a good negotiator.

It appears that after a 1 hr phone call he has gone from Mexico will definitely pay for the wall to no longer being able to mention it publicly.

Bigly negotiation skills.

Is this real??

01-27-2017 , 07:01 PM

#1946

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Is this real??

Here's the NYT on their phone call

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“With respect to the payment for the border wall, both presidents recognized their clear and very public difference between their stances on this very sensitive issue,” the Mexican president’s office said in a statement. “The presidents also agreed for now to not speak publicly about this controversial issue.”

Trump's statement on the call later in the article indeed does not mention the wall

01-27-2017 , 07:03 PM

#1947

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Watching the May/Trump press conference. This guy is an embarrassment.

01-27-2017 , 07:15 PM

#1948

Han YOLO

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sir this is a mcdonald's drive thru

01-27-2017 , 07:16 PM

#1949

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Originally Posted by sofocused978

Watching the May/Trump press conference. This guy is an embarrassment.

Yeah, but if anyone can strengthen US/UK relations, it's Mr. Brexit, right?

01-27-2017 , 07:20 PM

#1950

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Republican lawmakers still pushing for states to control localities in the interest of their business interests. The Democrats are going to have to show them they are the voice of the people.

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A top Democratic lawmaker in Maryland wants to ban counties and cities from increasing minimum wage in their individual jurisdictions, a proposal that is likely to pit progressive Democrats who have embraced a national push for a $15 hourly wage against the party’s center- and right-leaning members.

Del. Derek E. Davis (D-Prince George’s), the chairman of the House Economic Matters Committee, has introduced a bill that would put the General Assembly in charge of setting minimum wage even for cities and counties.

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Davis said the bill would help improve the business climate in Maryland by making wage and benefit rules more predictable and consistent, noting that Montgomery and Prince George’s counties current have their own minimum-wage laws in place, and Baltimore considered a $15 base wage last summer.

Oh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.ad8809e30bb5

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