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The point of the numbers isn't to inform, it's to persuade and start firing shots against Warren early. They want to start to hammer away at her popularity because they're very worried about her running and winning President in 2020. They saw how effectively the strategy worked with Clinton.

It's a real poll. Just stop.

02-15-2017 , 04:48 PM

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Even if there were massive Dem voter interest going into the 2018 mid-terms, the district gerrymandering will still be in place.

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Sadly the bolded is true. The GOP lapped the Dems a long time ago in ability to GOTV in midterms. We will need to see both the "massive Dem voter interest" you cited AND depressed GOP turnout in 2018 to flip Congress.

That said, it happened in 2006 which isn't ancient history and W, while unpopular and bad, was observably better than cheeto so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility. I remain cautiously optimistic fwiw

Disagree strongly on part of this.

Gerrymandered districts ensure you hold the majority in normal times. But you get wiped out extra hard in a wave election.

02-15-2017 , 04:49 PM

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ahahahaha beta cuck puzder is ready to withdraw his own nomination and avoid the shame of being rejected

02-15-2017 , 04:50 PM

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Stone Cold and the McMahons visiting the White House for a photo op is funny, but I don't get the 46% joke.

Stunned as in a wrestling move of some sort?

Yeah, all the McMahons, Triple H, and Trump have taken Stone Cold's finishing move in the ring at some point.

Potato quality video of Trump getting Stunned.

02-15-2017 , 04:51 PM

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Why the **** is this clown still holding rallies???

We get it, 300 something electoral votes

02-15-2017 , 04:52 PM

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No but he (probably) doesn't own Ivanka's clothing line either (and Kellyanne definitely doesn't)

but his family owns Ivanka's clothing line.

There is a direct line from Ivanka's sales going up to the Trump family making more money.

With FOX news its more indirect

02-15-2017 , 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

It's a real poll. Just stop.

One poll, one data point, without having a lot of other polls to aggregate with is useless UNLESS you want to use it to push some political point.

02-15-2017 , 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Why the **** is this clown still holding rallies???

We get it, 300 something electoral votes

Well, clowns do perform in a circus.

02-15-2017 , 04:55 PM

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Cracking Façade: Reince Priebus Just Chased An On-Fire Donald Trump Down The Hallway In Full View Of A White House Tour Group

02-15-2017 , 04:55 PM

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Stone Cold and the McMahons visiting the White House for a photo op is funny, but I don't get the 46% joke.

Stunned as in a wrestling move of some sort?

That's HHH

Google stone cold stunner

02-15-2017 , 04:56 PM

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Putzy steps down

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2715d7e69f38

02-15-2017 , 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Why the **** is this clown still holding rallies???

We get it, 300 something electoral votes

Because everyone at his rallies likes him, laughs at his jokes, applauds his terrible ideas, and generally makes him feel good. He's probably spent his presidency so far vacillating between furious and confused, and he needs validation.

02-15-2017 , 04:56 PM

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I assume this is real? Trump’s Key Aide Stephen Miller Follows David Duke On Twitter

02-15-2017 , 04:58 PM

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Yep - still there. https://twitter.com/StephenMillerAL/following

02-15-2017 , 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

The point of the numbers isn't to inform, it's to persuade and start firing shots against Warren early. They want to start to hammer away at her popularity because they're very worried about her running and winning President in 2020. They saw how effectively the strategy worked with Clinton.

LOL

02-15-2017 , 05:01 PM

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Wtf

02-15-2017 , 05:04 PM

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He has a press conference every day. It's called the White House press briefing. Spicer answers the questions.

Which one presents the official White House position on stuff, the press room briefing, or Trump's tweets?

02-15-2017 , 05:06 PM

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One poll, one data point, without having a lot of other polls to aggregate with is useless UNLESS you want to use it to push some political point.

It's certainly nowhere near definitive, but it's not useless. People have been posting the results of single polls for as long as I've been on this board. Politco, I imagine, publishes the results of all or most of their polls. Why is publishing this one especially agenda-motivated?

And publishing the results of single polls is how aggregates are formed. There is no reasonable basis for objecting to the publication or posting of this poll, unless you've found some flaw in their methodology. It seems to me that you are trying to delegitimize the poll by crying politics, as Trump would, because the results don't match your worldview.

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02-15-2017 , 05:11 PM

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I assume this is real? Trump’s Key Aide Stephen Miller Follows David Duke On Twitter

And why wouldn't he? The appreciation is mutual.

http://forward.com/fast-forward/3630...-favorite-jew/

02-15-2017 , 05:15 PM

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And publishing the results of single polls is how aggregates are formed. There is no reasonable basis for objecting to the publication or posting of this poll, unless you've found some flaw in their methodology. It seems to me that you are trying to delegitimize the poll by crying politics, as Trump would, because it doesn't match your worldview.

Trump loves to cherry-pick outlier polls that support his worldview, that's pretty much exactly what I'm talking about.

02-15-2017 , 05:16 PM

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Why the **** is this clown still holding rallies???

We get it, 300 something electoral votes

It's a substitute for holding a real news conference.

I don't think the hyper-partisan republicans have the integrity to impeach Trump unless a recording is produced of conversations between Trump campaign aides and Russian intelligence where arrangements were made for payments by Trump through the Russians to the hackers - as alleged in the Dossier. That would be a smoking gun hard to ignore.

If there were such conversations it's almost certain recordings of them exist somewhere in Russia. The NSA might want to activate some of the stuknet type malware they have sprinkled all over the world to hack whatever Russian networks they need to find the recordings.

PairTheBoard

02-15-2017 , 05:20 PM

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500 million readers? So literally ~ 8% of the world's population has read one of his books?

lol @ Stephen Miller. Hate to break it to you bruh, you may be one of the last ones, but when the camps open, you're still going in.

This should cost him his job. Remember the GOP losing their heads over Huma Abedin being like twelve links away from a Radical Islamist? This guy's literally one link in the chain away from Richard Spencer and one link in the chain away from David Duke.

02-15-2017 , 05:21 PM

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Yep - still there. https://twitter.com/StephenMillerAL/following

bro that one guy was wearing a nazi medal on tv, this crew is dicks out

02-15-2017 , 05:26 PM

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It's a substitute for holding a real news conference.

I don't think the hyper-partisan republicans have the integrity to impeach Trump unless a recording is produced of conversations between Trump campaign aides and Russian intelligence where arrangements were made for payments by Trump through the Russians to the hackers - as alleged in the Dossier. That would be a smoking gun hard to ignore.

If there were such conversations it's almost certain recordings of them exist somewhere in Russia. The NSA might want to activate some of the stuknet type malware they have sprinkled all over the world to hack whatever Russian networks they need to find the recordings.

PairTheBoard

They may or may not have recordings of Trump, but I bet the IC and federal law enforcement are privately just getting their ducks in order wrt evidence of Trump and Co's duplicity. Hopefully some Panama Papers type of thing will be leaked soon.

02-15-2017 , 05:30 PM

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Don abruptly ends another presser? Or rather decides it's over by saying thank you and walking off?

they call it a 2+2, where each leader picks 2 journalists to ask questions. astoundingly, the christian newspaper asked about flynn i mean wow i'm sure they got a stern talking-to afterwards

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