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04-09-2018 , 04:26 PM
****, meet fan.

Raid was referred by Mueller, but is separate from the main investigation. Speaking of unpardonable State crimes and ramping up Federal pressure to flip from earlier ITT...

Cohen flipping would be GG Trump. Who knows if it's likely though.
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04-09-2018 , 04:28 PM
Does Trump 1) send out the Iraqi information minister to say nothing to see 2) defend Cohen 3) throw Cohen under the bus or 4) go ape**** and do something nuts like declare war in Syria or fire Mueller?

My guess is 2), with his media minions and congressional apologists going all out. But watch out for 4).
04-09-2018 , 04:28 PM
The thing about campaign finance violations is it's a pretty minor offense. It's possible to go to prison, but normally it's dealt with a fine charged to the campaign.
04-09-2018 , 04:32 PM


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04-09-2018 , 04:32 PM
Guy on MSNBC talking about something called a "Taint Team."

Sounds about right.
04-09-2018 , 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Our House
Cohen flipping would be GG Trump.
Is this even legal/ethical/possible? To "flip" a lawyer against his own client?
04-09-2018 , 04:34 PM
Tomorrow 3pm:

Huckabeast: "we've covered this repeatedly and I would refer you to the presidents personal attorney."

"Uh...."
04-09-2018 , 04:34 PM
Trump's lawyers needing lawyers will never not be funny.
04-09-2018 , 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dth123451
Dumb **** Cohen just got raided by the FBI
04-09-2018 , 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
Is this even legal/ethical/possible? To "flip" a lawyer against his own client?
He would prob have to surrender his law license in a plea deal anyway.
04-09-2018 , 04:37 PM
Can't wait for someone to gif over the breaking bad jail scene.
04-09-2018 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iron81
Not by Trump, no. Also, the raid was carried out by non-Mueller federal agents based in New York.

I understand that there is likely a crime-fraud exemption to attorney client privilege in this case, but it has to be unusual for an attorney to get raided.
Very unusual, but Mueller filed a motion to pierce AC privilege vs Flynn, I believe, before he settled.
04-09-2018 , 04:38 PM
Some of the comments in the NYT are pretty interesting.

Getting a search warrant for a lawyer's files is a BIG, BIG deal. It requires sign-off from either the US Attorney or an Assistant AG, consultation with main justice in DC, and consideration of other, less-intrusive methods of getting the information. And that's before the warrant goes to the judge. Judges tend to be very protective of attorney-client confidentiality and are very skeptical of such requests even in routine cases, let alone when the request is for a warrant for the client files of the personal attorney to the President of the United States.

On a scale of 1 to 10, Cohen's legal trouble just went all the way to 11.
04-09-2018 , 04:39 PM

https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/st...40690729439233
04-09-2018 , 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
Is this even legal/ethical/possible? To "flip" a lawyer against his own client?
depends on a lot

like iron said his bar license is ****ed anyway if he has to plea to any sort of fraudulent type conduct
04-09-2018 , 04:39 PM
oh DEAR
04-09-2018 , 04:39 PM
Just tuned into Fox to hear Cavuto say "Don't you think a SMART lawyer like Cohen would raid proof his office".
04-09-2018 , 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Some of the comments in the NYT are pretty interesting.

Getting a search warrant for a lawyer's files is a BIG, BIG deal. It requires sign-off from either the US Attorney or an Assistant AG, consultation with main justice in DC, and consideration of other, less-intrusive methods of getting the information. And that's before the warrant goes to the judge. Judges tend to be very protective of attorney-client confidentiality and are very skeptical of such requests even in routine cases, let alone when the request is for a warrant for the client files of the personal attorney to the President of the United States.

On a scale of 1 to 10, Cohen's legal trouble just went all the way to 11.
It's like, how much more trouble could this be? And the answer is none. None more trouble.
04-09-2018 , 04:43 PM
being a lawyer does not allow you to commit crimes or nah? cohen was paid by trump with campaign money to pay off stormy - that **** is illegal, right?
04-09-2018 , 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
being a lawyer does not allow you to commit crimes or nah? cohen was paid by trump with campaign money to pay off stormy - that **** is illegal, right?
Yes, but it's tough to prove. See John Edwards.
04-09-2018 , 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
being a lawyer does not allow you to commit crimes or nah? cohen was paid by trump with campaign money to pay off stormy - that **** is illegal, right?
Yea it's what got John Edwards busted. But none of this will matter b/c the GOP is spineless.
04-09-2018 , 04:46 PM
04-09-2018 , 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrWookie
It's like, how much more trouble could this be? And the answer is none. None more trouble.
And Trump has both Assad and Mueller just reraising him. Gotta be a Pepto Bismol and rage kinda day.
04-09-2018 , 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
being a lawyer does not allow you to commit crimes or nah? cohen was paid by trump with campaign money to pay off stormy - that **** is illegal, right?
Even if Trump didn't repay him, it was still an illegal campaign contribution.
04-09-2018 , 04:48 PM
Make that three locations.


https://twitter.com/eorden/status/983444571819593728

Quote:
Mr. Cohen’s emails have also been turned over to the special counsel as part of document productions by the Trump Organization, which Mr. Mueller subpoenaed in recent weeks, according to a person familiar with the matter. Last month, Mr. Mueller subpoenaed former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg for documents related to nine associates, including Mr. Cohen.
Hope he complied with the subpoena and turned over all the emails.
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