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08-01-2017 , 10:45 PM

#49926

Sighsalot

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Exactly right udevil, he seems to have some good lawyerly skills

08-01-2017 , 11:01 PM

#49927

uDevil

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Biggs is my rep. This is just embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/s...77979251003392

Quote:

Franks, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, claims Mueller is violating a law governing the special counsel that prohibits him from serving if he has a "conflict of interest," which includes "a personal relationship with any person substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution."

Franks cited a Fox News report from May that cast Mueller and former FBI Director James Comey as "longtime allies." Mueller served as the FBI director when Comey was the deputy attorney general in 2003. The investigation into Russia's meddling int he 2016 presidential election has expanded to include possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, as well as the president's decision to fire Comey earlier this year.

08-01-2017 , 11:02 PM

#49928

m_reed05

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The highlight was Butowsky claiming 'white house' was code for some dc cop, when presented with a text where he said the white house had seen the story and wanted it out immediately.

08-01-2017 , 11:02 PM

#49929

ANONN123

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Nobody on earth could watch this and not conclude every word is a lie.

Oh boy, how many times has this been said before

08-01-2017 , 11:07 PM

#49930

PoppaTMan

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Quote:

"I'm actually the one who's been putting this together but as you know, I keep my name out of things because I have no credibility," Butowsky writes, as reflected in the Wheeler suit.

08-01-2017 , 11:37 PM

#49931

Kirbynator

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19:42

the face he makes after the "who told you that story"

ROFL

its like oh goshdarn i ****ed up and im done

08-02-2017 , 12:11 AM

#49932

markksman

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Dear republican dummies. Comey is not the target of any mueller investigation.

08-02-2017 , 12:13 AM

#49933

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sighsalot

We gotta slow down on all the winning....

The relationship between President Trump and Senate Republicans has deteriorated so sharply in recent days that some are openly defying his directives, bringing long-simmering tensions to a boil as the GOP labors to reorient its stalled legislative agenda.

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), head of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, announced Tuesday that he would work with his Democratic colleagues to “stabilize and strengthen” the individual insurance market under the Affordable Care Act, which the president has badgered the Senate to keep trying to repeal. Alexander also urged the White House to keep up payments to insurers that help low-income consumers afford plans, which Trump has threatened to cut off.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.9ff4d82bf998

Inc laws that prevent trump from messing with the aca

08-02-2017 , 12:19 AM

#49934

markksman

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Yeah I guess that explains why Greenwald only tweeted about Messing and nothing about the transgender ban that day.

Oops!

suzzer you are a total dip**** on any subject involving Glenn Greenwald. He had several more tweets that day on the transgender ban.

Lets not have another greenwald argument itt. The guy continues to be bad.

08-02-2017 , 12:20 AM

#49935

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

I continue to believe that Mueller's got this. I just hope there is someone on the inside who is tasked with tipping him off if Trump is going to start a nuclear war or something. I worry that he will sit on a slam dunk impeachment while collecting evidence of like straight up treason or whatever.

He's got it if Trump is guilty for sure, which I think at this point he has to be at least of obstruction and probably conspiracy.

Getting anything to happen as a result of him being guilty, that's going the be the tricky part.

08-02-2017 , 12:26 AM

#49936

fatkid

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The most tragic part of that interview is the domain name debunkingrodwheelersclaims dot com.

08-02-2017 , 12:41 AM

#49937

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Yeah I guess that explains why Greenwald only tweeted about Messing and nothing about the transgender ban that day.

Oops!

suzzer you are a total dip**** on any subject involving Glenn Greenwald. He had several more tweets that day on the transgender ban.

The Messing tweet was still idiotic and irrelevant. Who gives a flying **** what Debra Messing thinks? Why focus one iota of energy on that unless you have an obsessive fixation on rooting out liberal hypocrisy?

08-02-2017 , 12:44 AM

#49938

suzzer99

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08-02-2017 , 12:48 AM

#49939

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Because it's a dumb tweet and lots of things on Twitter involve pointing out dumb tweets. It doesn't bother you when anyone points out bad tweets made by Republicans; the real issue here is that you see Greenwald as someone betraying the liberal cause when I doubt he identifies as a liberal to begin with.

08-02-2017 , 12:53 AM

#49940

uDevil

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The setup for Cuomo's interview was very good and Butowski wasn't prepared refute it. I don't see what good he thinks he's doing himself going on CNN. Ffs he starts out calling himself a Trump surrogate and by the end he has trouble getting out that he even voted for him.

08-02-2017 , 02:04 AM

#49941

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Yeah I guess that explains why Greenwald only tweeted about Messing and nothing about the transgender ban that day.

Oops!

suzzer you are a total dip**** on any subject involving Glenn Greenwald. He had several more tweets that day on the transgender ban.

I missed the original post and may have this out of context and this has nothing to do with suzzer or Greenwald, but HRC's tax plan was 43.6% on income over $5M so I'm not sure what Debra is talking about. Is it clear though that she meant that's too high and not too low?

08-02-2017 , 02:54 AM

#49942

Lawnmower Man

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The rules of engagement on these psychotic liars needs reworked imo. Cuomo was good, but like 85% of that exchange was the fat pig answering yes/no questions with non sequitur rambling to either 1) run out the clock or 1.1) hope the question gets repeated so he can pivot to the "CAN I FINISH?" trick, which is the QQ+ fantasyland of time wasting for liars. I think Cuomo should just say no, this is a TV SHOW here buddy, not your vlog for incoherent psychobabble about cotton shirts. At least that's BillO would have done.

08-02-2017 , 02:56 AM

#49943

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Yes - she goes on to rant about it. Well I dunno. I thought I saw that somewhere.

What is sure is she tweets about 500 times/day and who the hell knows what she was thinking. https://twitter.com/DebraMessing

Interesting that GG uses a screenshot which makes it hard to find the tweet.

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08-02-2017 , 04:01 AM

#49944

Vecernicek

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The weird Greenwald blindspot some posters have in this forum is weird.

08-02-2017 , 04:03 AM

#49945

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

Biggs is my rep. This is just embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/s...77979251003392

Call him and give his staff an earful. 202-225-2635

08-02-2017 , 04:36 AM

#49946

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Watching this too. This will go down as the single worst defence ever attempted on TV. Nobody on earth could watch this and not conclude every word is a lie.

Rod Wheeler is black, and Butowski went straight for the "He's desperate for cash; he'll say and do anything" defense. Pretty sure that's chessmate for 40% of Americans. Plus CNN is fake news, and the whole story broke on radical leftist NPR. So this story only matters for its utility to particularly aggressive left leaners to embarrass their Trumpkin relatives at barbecues when they start crowing about fake news.

08-02-2017 , 07:24 AM

#49947

Sighsalot

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Cuomo just shredding mulvaney on cnn about health care. Take note other talking heads, this is how its done

08-02-2017 , 07:30 AM

#49948

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

19:42

the face he makes after the "who told you that story"

ROFL

its like oh goshdarn i ****ed up and im done

My god this is amazing.

08-02-2017 , 07:31 AM

#49949

danspartan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sighsalot

Cuomo just shredding mulvaney on cnn about health care. Take note other talking heads, this is how its done

Its amazing how everyone in this administration is a moron. Wow Mulvaney is now saying some deficits are OK. Pretty sure that was antithetical to everything he stood for in congress.

08-02-2017 , 07:38 AM

#49950

Sighsalot

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Yea one by one and day by day they are being exposed as the pond scum of the earth that they are. Jeff sessions going full racist, targets affirmative action.

Elections have consequences is going to become a slogan in this country for a long time. Get out and vote and not just in national elections. It is a racist and bigoted constituence that elected session in the first place 40 years ago, non cretins have to counter that

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