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06-14-2017 , 02:07 PM
Where was the GOP's love of democratic norms when they STOLE our Supreme Court seat and handed it to an extremist conservative?
06-14-2017 , 02:10 PM
i feel you on some of those points einbert but the general population elected republicans running on repeal obamacare and they elected them on "don't let the black president pick a SC justice"... it'd be great if we could figure out a way to convince Americans that republicans are bad people.
06-14-2017 , 02:12 PM
If the GOP would steal elections with Voter ID laws, who among us believes they wouldn't straight up falsify election results if they felt they could get away with it?
06-14-2017 , 02:20 PM
Will the Georgia Special Election Get Hacked?
http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-hacked-215255
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A 29-year-old former cybersecurity researcher with the federal government’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, Lamb, who now works for a private internet security firm in Georgia, wanted to assess the security of the state’s voting systems. When he learned that Kennesaw State University’s Center for Election Systems tests and programs voting machines for the entire state of Georgia, he searched the center’s website.

“I was just looking for PDFs or documents,” he recalls, hoping to find anything that might give him a little more sense of the center’s work. But his curiosity turned to alarm when he encountered a number of files, arranged by county, that looked like they could be used to hack an election. Lamb wrote an automated script to scrape the site and see what was there, then went off to lunch while the program did its work. When he returned, he discovered that the script had downloaded 15 gigabytes of data.

“I was like whoa, whoa. … I did not mean to do that. … I was absolutely stunned, just the sheer quantity of files I had acquired,” he tells Politico Magazine in his first interview since discovering the massive security breach.

As Georgia prepares for a special runoff election this month in one of the country’s most closely watched congressional races, and as new reports emerge about Russian attempts to breach American election systems, serious questions are being raised about the state’s ability to safeguard the vote. Lamb’s discovery, which he shared out of concern that state officials and the center ignored or brushed off serious problems highlighted by his breach, is at the heart of voting activists’ fears that there’s no way to be sure the upcoming race—which pits Democratic neophyte Jon Ossoff against Republican former Secretary of State Karen Handel—will be secure. The special election has already become the most expensive House race in U.S. history and has drawn the attention of President Donald Trump, who has tweeted his support of Handel and ridiculed Ossoff, whose campaign is seen as a litmus test for the Trump resistance movement.

Marilyn Marks, executive director of the Rocky Mountain Foundation, which sued the state last month to prevent it from using the voting machines in the upcoming runoff, says Americans have reason to be concerned about the integrity of Georgia’s election system—and the state’s puzzling lack of interest in addressing its vulnerabilities. “The security weaknesses recently exposed would be a welcome mat for bad actors.”

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Within the mother lode Lamb found on the center’s website was a database containing registration records for the state’s 6.7 million voters; multiple PDFs with instructions and passwords for election workers to sign in to a central server on Election Day; and software files for the state’s ExpressPoll pollbooks — electronic devices used by pollworkers to verify that a voter is registered before allowing them to cast a ballot. There also appeared to be databases for the so-called GEMS servers. These Global Election Management Systems are used to prepare paper and electronic ballots, tabulate votes and produce summaries of vote totals.

The files were supposed to be behind a password-protected firewall, but the center had misconfigured its server so they were accessible to anyone, according to Lamb. “You could just go to the root of where they were hosting all the files and just download everything without logging in,” Lamb says.

And there was another problem: The site was also using a years-old version of Drupal — content management software — that had a critical software vulnerability long known to security researchers. “Drupageddon,” as researchers dubbed the vulnerability, got a lot of attention when it was first revealed in 2014. It would let attackers easily seize control of any site that used the software. A patch to fix the hole had been available for two years, but the center hadn’t bothered to update the software, even though it was widely known in the security community that hackers had created automated scripts to attack the vulnerability back in 2014.

Lamb was concerned that hackers might already have penetrated the center’s site, a scenario that wasn’t improbable given news reports of intruders probing voter registration systems and election websites; if they had breached the center’s network, they could potentially have planted malware on the server to infect the computers of county election workers who accessed it, thereby giving attackers a backdoor into election offices throughout the state; or they could possibly have altered software files the center distributed to Georgia counties prior to the presidential election, depending on where those files were kept.

The center has played a critical role in the state’s elections for more than a decade, not only by testing the touch-screen voting machines used throughout the state and maintaining the software that’s used in the machines, but also by providing support for the GEMS servers that tabulate votes and creating and distributing the electronic ballot definition files that go into each voting machine before elections. These files tell the machines which candidate should receive a vote based on where a voter touches the screen. If someone were to alter the files, machines could be made to record votes for the wrong candidate. And since Georgia’s machines lack a proper paper trail — which would allow voters to verify their choices before ballots are cast and could also be used to compare against electronic tallies during an audit — officials might never know the machines recorded votes inaccurately. There have been no public reports indicating that this has ever happened in Georgia, but computer security experts say it’s not clear officials would be able to uncover this even if they tried.

The center also distributes the voter registration list to counties for use on their ExpressPoll pollbooks; if attackers were to delete voter names from the database stored on the center’s server or alter the precinct where voters are assigned, they could create chaos on Election Day and possibly prevent voters from casting ballots. This is not an idle concern: During the presidential election last year, some voters in Georgia’s Fulton County complained that they arrived to polls and were told they were at the wrong precinct. When they went to the precinct where they were redirected, they were told to return to the original precinct. The problem was apparently a glitch in the ExpressPoll software.

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Last month, Marks and other plaintiffs filed a motion seeking an injunction to prevent the three counties casting ballots in the 6th Congressional District race—Fulton, DeKalb and Cobb—from using their touch-screen machines and use paper ballots instead. In court filings and a hearing last week, they cited Lamb’s breach of the center’s server as one reason the machines, and the center’s oversight of them, cannot be trusted. They sought the injunction without knowing the full extent of Lamb’s breach.

Their concerns were validated last week with the publication of a classified National Security Agency report, which stated that hackers associated with Russian military intelligence had been behind the previously reported targeting of voter registration systems as well as an extensive phishing scheme to hack election officials. A second story, published this week by Bloomberg, indicated that the hackers targeted voter registration systems in 39 states and had actually tried to delete or alter voter data in at least one state. They had also accessed the software used by poll workers to verify voters at the polls—the same kind of software that Lamb found on Georgia’s website.

The reports didn’t indicate whether Georgia was among the 39 targeted states, but several factors make Georgia an especially good candidate for hacking. Unlike other states, which use a patchwork of voting machine brands and models throughout their election districts—making it more difficult to affect a national election outcome—Georgia uses a uniform system statewide: touch-screen voting machines made by Premier Election Solutions (the company, formerly Diebold Election Systems, is now defunct). More than 27,000 of these years-old machines are used in the state, as are more than 6,000 ExpressPoll pollbooks, also made by Premier/Diebold. And unlike most other states that have a decentralized structure for managing elections—machines and ballots are prepared and managed by individual counties—Georgia’s reliance on the center to manage those responsibilities for counties makes it a bull’s-eye for someone wanting to disrupt elections in the state.
06-14-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
If the GOP would steal elections with Voter ID laws, who among us believes they wouldn't straight up falsify election results if they felt they could get away with it?
**** man, they're straight up opening the drawbridge to allow Russia in so the elections can be rigged in their favor. OF COURSE they don't care about democracy. They're too busy hiding information, obstructing any attempt at public transparency, and disinforming the masses to the max, in order to protect Trump, who's using America's full spectrum of resources to also protect Trump.
06-14-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
It's not sexy infotainment like Russiagate.

Doesn't bring the eyeballs.
Was is there really to cover with the bill being written behind closed doors
06-14-2017 , 02:25 PM
Montana Congressman-Elect Gets No Jail Time for Assaulting Reporter
http://www.wsls.com/inside-edition/m...lting-reporter
06-14-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Will the Georgia Special Election Get Hacked?
http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-hacked-215255
Makes me think in a different light about those election results where the GOP inexplicably received larger margins in more populous counties. Maybe those are the counties most likely to have all this stuff online?
06-14-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Senor Stinks
Sorry for asking for help. Why the ridicule? Was a genuine question. For a seemingly smart crowd, some of you let your egos get in the way.

You said citing nyt and wapo was trolling and your username is calling Latinos smelly and your first post was in politics

We get enough trolls JAQing off in here to ignore the red flags
06-14-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
Was is there really to cover with the bill being written behind closed doors
The house bill is known, CBO score is out, there is tons of national dialogue you could have on healthcare policy right now that isn't taking place because Americans don't find it entertaining/interesting enough.
06-14-2017 , 02:58 PM
I'd like to know what the liberal media did to generate hate vs UPS.
06-14-2017 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
If the GOP would steal elections with Voter ID laws, who among us believes they wouldn't straight up falsify election results if they felt they could get away with it?
Whats the deal with Voter ID laws? Why would minorities be less likely to have an ID? Why wouldn't people have an ID? You can't do absolutely anything in this country without an ID.
06-14-2017 , 03:02 PM


https://twitter.com/AP/status/875061845257748481

I assume this is because the Rusher story is fake news?
06-14-2017 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Whats the deal with Voter ID laws? Why would minorities be less likely to have an ID? Why wouldn't people have an ID? You can't do absolutely anything in this country without an ID.
This is one court ruling but this is a pattern. This series of laws was passed by ALEC across as many states as possible and it has had serious effects on peoples' ability to participate in the voting process:

Court Rules NC Voter ID Law 'Intentionally Discriminatory'
'With surgical precision, North Carolina tried to eliminate voting practices disproportionately used by African-Americans'

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...discriminatory
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A federal appeals court on Friday struck down North Carolina's controversial voter ID law, ruling that the 2013 law was created "with discriminatory intent."

Civil rights groups hailed the decision as a major victory.

"With surgical precision, North Carolina tried to eliminate voting practices disproportionately used by African-Americans. This ruling is a stinging rebuke of the state's attempt to undermine African-American voter participation, which had surged over the last decade," said Dale Ho, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's (ACLU) Voting Rights Project. "It is a major victory for North Carolina voters and for voting rights."

"We are happy today that the 4th Circuit's Court of Appeals' decision exposed the racist intent of the extremist element of our government in North Carolina," said Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, II, president of the North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP.

"In 2013, this government took our voting system—which was a model for the nation in encouraging people to vote, not discouraging them—and they made it into the worst voter suppression act in the country," Barber added. "Today the 4th Circuit’s decision gives North Carolinians back an electoral system that allows the people of North Carolina to vote freely this fall."

After the law was enacted in 2013, the "U.S. Justice Department, state NAACP, League of Women Voters and others sued the state, saying the restrictions violated the federal Voting Rights Act and the Constitution," AP notes.

As Common Dreams reported, the legal fight in North Carolina was "watched closely by activists and legal experts nationwide, as it is one of the first tests to a restrictive election reform law passed by a conservative legislature in the wake of the Supreme Court's dismantling of key portions of the Voting Rights Act in 2013."

The decision (pdf) argued that a prior ruling by a federal judge "missed the forest in carefully surveying the many trees. This failure of perspective led the court to ignore critical facets bearing on legislative intent, including the inextricable link between race and politics in North Carolina." The ruling continued:

[…] on the day after the Supreme Court issued Shelby County v. Holder, 133 S. Ct. 2612 (2013), eliminating preclearance obligations, a leader of the party that newly dominated the legislature (and the party that rarely enjoyed African American support) announced an intention to enact what he characterized as an ‘omnibus’ election law. Before enacting that law, the legislature requested data on the use, by race, of a number of voting practices. Upon receipt of the race data, the General Assembly enacted legislation that restricted voting an registration in five different ways, all of which disproportionately affected African Americans.

In response to claims that intentional racial discrimination animated its action, the State offered only meager justifications. Although the new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision, they constitute inapt remedies for the problems assuredly justifying them and, in fact, impose cures for problems that did not exist. Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State’s true motivation.
06-14-2017 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Whats the deal with Voter ID laws? Why would minorities be less likely to have an ID? Why wouldn't people have an ID? You can't do absolutely anything in this country without an ID.
It costs money to get a DL or state ID. Money that you obv take for granted. Many also don't have other forms of ID like electric bills, etc. to prove address because maybe they can't afford rent or utilities either. So because of that they don't get a vote?
06-14-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Whats the deal with Voter ID laws? Why would minorities be less likely to have an ID? Why wouldn't people have an ID? You can't do absolutely anything in this country without an ID.
In north carolina, you couldn't vote with US passport


its rigged against poor people (i know poor people don't have passports) (but they rigged it so poor people would have less of a chance to vote)
06-14-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Whats the deal with Voter ID laws? Why would minorities be less likely to have an ID? Why wouldn't people have an ID? You can't do absolutely anything in this country without an ID.
There's a thread for that

Cliffs: minorities are more likely to lack IDs, minorities tend to vote D, so Republicans write laws increasing hurdles on them to vote. Sometimes these laws are coupled with other policies designed to make it harder to get ID (i.e. closing DMV offices) or targeting other groups (i.e. making student IDs, more often held by D voters, insufficient to vote but allowing gun permits, more likely to be held by Rs)
06-14-2017 , 03:04 PM
I give Trump 24 hrs, nay 18 hrs, before he tries to politicize this and use it to garner sympathy. He'll fail and make himself look worse, as usual, and his disapproval will creep over 60 pts.
06-14-2017 , 03:05 PM
Court Blocks Kobach’s Scheme For Proof-Of-Citizenship In Kansas Elections
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckrak...er-requirement
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Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach was on the receiving end of yet another adverse ruling in the litigation surrounding the state’s proof-of-citizenship voter registration requirement, which Kobach championed.

A state court in Topeka Friday placed a permanent injunction on a work-around Kobach tried to implement after federal courts deemed the requirement a violation of the National Voter Registration Act. Blocked was his system in which Kansas voters who registered to vote using the federal methods that did not require a documentary proof-of-citizenship would only be able to vote in federal elections, and not in state and local races.

State Judge Larry D. Hendricks on Friday said that the “two-tiered system” that Kobach created with a temporary regulation was a violation of his authority under state law, and that a permanent injunction was required to protect voters.

“Just as a homeowner is ill-advised to patch a fractured foundation with duct tape, however, so too has the Defendant’s temporary regulation led to additional challenges for all parties involved,” Hendricks said.

Kansas’ proof-of-citizenship requirement has faced a number of lawsuits that have come at it at various angles. The requirement was only added to the federal voter registration form used in the state after a Kobach ally became the executive director for the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, which is in charge of some of the federal administrative issues surrounding elections. That action was blocked in September by a federal appeals court, which ordered the old version of the federal form be restored in Kansas and the other two states Newby had approved the change for.

A state court had previously placed a temporary injunction on Kobach’s efforts to implement a dual system.

According to Hendricks’ decision Friday, more than 18,000 voters stood to be potentially affected by the two-tiered system, while Kansas, in its brief had put forward evidence of only 25 cases since 2003 of non-citizens being registered to vote.

“The number non-citizen registrations are miniscule compared to the number of voters that potentially will be unable to vote,” Hendricks said.
06-14-2017 , 03:08 PM
Cliff notes: It's a poll tax for the modern era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_t..._United_States
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In the United States, payment of a poll tax was a prerequisite to the registration for voting in a number of states until 1966. The tax emerged in some states of the United States in the late 19th century as part of the Jim Crow laws. After the right to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, a number of states enacted poll tax laws as a device for restricting voting rights. The laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation,[1] achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.
Grandfather clause--a way of freezing the current electorate in place. This is the effect stronger and stronger Voter ID laws have.
06-14-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
There's a thread for that

Cliffs: minorities are more likely to lack IDs, minorities tend to vote D, so Republicans write laws increasing hurdles on them to vote. Sometimes these laws are coupled with other policies designed to make it harder to get ID (i.e. closing DMV offices) or targeting other groups (i.e. making student IDs, more often held by D voters, insufficient to vote but allowing gun permits, more likely to be held by Rs)
This is an excellent summation. Sometimes it's not even that subtle or even targeted. When I had to renew my license here in FL it was ****ing insane the **** that I had to provide to prove that I'm me, to get a RENEWAL. I've had a FL license for 15 years. If they just go ahead and make it hard on everyone then it makes it harder to demonstrate that their motives are targeted, but the effect is the same.

And FL was closing DMVs long before states like lolabama got into that game.
06-14-2017 , 03:11 PM
And how do Democrats explain to people that Republicans are trying to steal our democracy with Voter ID laws that are practically right out of the 1960s playbook when they're playing ****ing baseball with them. I don't like it.
06-14-2017 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
This is an excellent summation. Sometimes it's not even that subtle or even targeted. When I had to renew my license here in FL it was ****ing insane the **** that I had to provide to prove that I'm me, to get a RENEWAL. I've had a FL license for 15 years. If they just go ahead and make it hard on everyone then it makes it harder to demonstrate that their motives are targeted, but the effect is the same.

And FL was closing DMVs long before states like lolabama got into that game.
Acorn to Shut All Its Offices by April 1
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/us/23acorn.html
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The community organizing group Acorn announced Monday that it would close all its remaining state affiliates and field offices by April 1.

The organization is “developing a plan to resolve all outstanding debts, obligations and other issues,” said a statement released by the group.

Acorn has been battered by criticism from the right and has lost federal money and private donations since a video sting was publicized last fall. Acorn employees were shown in the videos advising two young conservative activists — posing as a pimp and a prostitute — how to conceal their criminal activities.

In reaction to the videos, the Census Bureau ended its partnership with the organization for this year’s census, the Internal Revenue Service dropped the group from its Voluntary Income Tax Assistance program, and Congress voted to cut off all grants to the organization.
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Acorn on Brink of Bankruptcy, Officials Say MARCH 19, 2010
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In recent years, the group has also been dogged by mismanagement and criticism — mostly from conservatives — for its handling of voter registration drives.

Last month, the Brooklyn district attorney’s office completed an investigation of the Acorn employees there who appeared in the video and concluded that they had not taken part in any criminality.

“For Acorn as a national organization, our vindication on the facts doesn’t necessarily pay the bills,” Bertha Lewis, the chief executive of Acorn, said in a statement.

While the videos gave the impression that one of the two activists, James E. O’Keefe III, was dressed as a pimp when he entered the offices, later inspection seemed to indicate that he had manipulated that part of the footage and showed no evidence that he wore the costume when talking to Acorn workers.

The transcript of several stings, however, indicate that Mr. O’Keefe clearly presented himself as a pimp and that Acorn workers in some offices told him how to hide prostitution activities from the authorities.
06-14-2017 , 03:17 PM
Thanks guys. Didn't realize how many people didn't have IDs. It's $20 and essential to almost everything in this country. But I could see how things like needing bills to prove residency & closing down DMVs could make it exceptionally hard for people.

I live in california where it's super easy to get an ID though.
06-14-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12


https://twitter.com/AP/status/875061845257748481

I assume this is because the Rusher story is fake news?
Vote is at 97-2

So which of the grandstanding dickbags on Senate Intel Committee pretended there's nothing to this while voting in favor of sanctions? I'm guessing all of them except maybe that idiot from Idaho

      
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