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10-31-2012 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
in NY so if its post-ban it has to have a non-adjustable stock, have to pin/weld the muzzle break, can't have the barrel threaded.

maybe I should get a pre-ban receiver and post ban upper?
GTFO NY and get an AR10 IMO

but yeah that is a decent option. The thing is that .308 is mother ****ing expensive to shoot so keep that in mind. you would be beter off money wise IMO getting an AR in 5.56 for training and a 300ACC upper for SHTF.

that said I would love a swanky FAL
11-03-2012 , 12:55 AM
^ That's some good advice there. From what I've seen in this thread you seem dismissive of 5.56 Tsao but it's so much cheaper to shoot/stockpile, makes for a lighter rifle overall, and the AR platform has pretty good versatility by changing uppers. Research the 300 AAC Blackout and 6.8 SPC calibers. And here's a good resource for 5.56 info. I just don't see the end of rising ammo prices, considering Obama is favored to be reelected.

I'm on the verge of purchasing my first red dot scope, an Aimpoint T1 Micro on a LaRue 1/3rd cowitness quick detach mount. Anyone have insight/advice on red dots? This rifle is mainly just for HD/range fun/SHTF, maybe some feral hog culling. The T1 is pretty pricey so I want to make sure it's the right choice. I'm all for buy once, cry once, as long as it's only once.
11-03-2012 , 10:15 PM
It's always nice when you pack for a move and find something you'd misplaced.

11-04-2012 , 11:24 AM
I hope you're not planning to shoot that stuff. It could be past its expiration date. Send it to me for proper disposal.
11-04-2012 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mexibastardhawk
^ That's some good advice there. From what I've seen in this thread you seem dismissive of 5.56 Tsao but it's so much cheaper to shoot/stockpile, makes for a lighter rifle overall, and the AR platform has pretty good versatility by changing uppers. Research the 300 AAC Blackout and 6.8 SPC calibers. And here's a good resource for 5.56 info. I just don't see the end of rising ammo prices, considering Obama is favored to be reelected.

I'm on the verge of purchasing my first red dot scope, an Aimpoint T1 Micro on a LaRue 1/3rd cowitness quick detach mount. Anyone have insight/advice on red dots? This rifle is mainly just for HD/range fun/SHTF, maybe some feral hog culling. The T1 is pretty pricey so I want to make sure it's the right choice. I'm all for buy once, cry once, as long as it's only once.
Personally I prefer the smallest dot possible, once you get out to 100yrds and beyond a 4 or 8 MOA dot covers up too much of the target. The T1 is a sweet sight and they have a 2 MOA version now.
11-06-2012 , 10:00 PM
Yeah I think I'm pretty much set on the 2 MOA dot, especially after seeing this comparison image.

11-07-2012 , 12:14 AM
Stock up on your guns. Obama is going to try to push another assault weapons ban.
11-07-2012 , 02:38 AM
I was thinking that myself, but I'm wondering if it's just fear mongering.

Even though they all definitely want it, the Dems got destroyed last time they put in the AWB.
11-07-2012 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwatt
I was thinking that myself, but I'm wondering if it's just fear mongering.

Even though they all definitely want it, the Dems got destroyed last time they put in the AWB.
I personally think it's fear mongering. With the republicans being so butt hurt, and the looming fiscal issue (which is going to consume the media/politicians time) I'm not worried about any big new anti assault weapon bans until the fiscal drama is over (and even then, not till 2014 if the republicans lose the house do I think anything that bad will be done).

If in 2014 the republicans lose the house, THEN I think there's a legit shot at Obama going after guns.
11-07-2012 , 09:40 AM
Obama explicitly stated in the town hall debate that he wanted to ban assault weapons and "cheap" handguns.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89G08T20121017
11-07-2012 , 04:36 PM
I can't wait til WASR's skyrocket up to 2 grand. The LOL part is that might not even be an exaggeration.
11-07-2012 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
If in 2014 the republicans lose the house, THEN I think there's a legit shot at Obama going after guns.
If the GOP loses the house in 2014, there's a 90% chance of there being an "assault weapons" ban passed before 2016.
11-10-2012 , 12:11 PM
Just wanted to congratulate my boy Kyle on his "GREAT SUCCESS" of making it big.

He appears at 0:37 in this ad.



You fine people know him by another name.
11-10-2012 , 01:31 PM
DBJ

is FPS Kyle a former/current LEO or does he have a military background?
11-10-2012 , 02:07 PM
I'm unsure about military, due to his age if he did he would have done a short contract.

Kyle now works in what I'll only disclose as "the firearms industry".

I guess if it had to be labeled it would be labeled as a sales and marketing position. Remember, when you cut through all the BS and comedy, what Kyle is actually doing is demonstrating weapons, in what is actually quite an informative and entertaining manner.

There's also this:



So alot of Kyles employment these days is actually just being FPSRussia.
11-10-2012 , 02:14 PM
good for him. he's awesome.
11-10-2012 , 08:35 PM
Took my TX CHL class today, 100% on the written and 249/250 on the shooting portion just blasting away with no concern for precision. Super easy, 50 rounds, anything in the 8-10 ring counts for a full 5 points.

A friend with a CHL has been telling me his instructor told his class that CHL holders have a duty to intervene if they see a situation that an armed person can assist in. Anyone ever heard anything like this? I've been calling "bull****" on that all along, mainly because Warren vs. DC has upheld that even police don't have a duty to protect citizens.

I saw that Black Ops II commercial a few days ago, maybe during one of the NFL games last weekend. FPSRussia and Robert Downey Jr. were the only people I recognized.
11-10-2012 , 08:38 PM
I'm guessing he meant "duty" in an ethical and not a legal sense.

I still disagree even if he meant it ethically, but at least he has an arguable position.

Legally, no that's insane.
11-12-2012 , 09:58 PM
So I was rather shocked today to learn that Wounded Warrior Project shuns donations from firearms companies:

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WWP does not co-brand, create cause marketing campaigns or receive a percentage or a portion of proceeds from companies in which the product or message is sexual, political or religious in nature, or from alcohol or firearms companies.
Source

Apparently this whole thing blew up online when they pissed off Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch, a pompous ass in his own right, IMO.
11-12-2012 , 10:13 PM
Never cared much for WWP after seeing on Charity Navigator that only 55% of their income goes to actual program funding.

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TOTAL REVENUE $74,058,348

EXPENSES
Program Expenses $31,782,076
Administrative Expenses $4,669,208
Fundraising Expenses $21,306,030
TOTAL FUNCTIONAL EXPENSES $57,757,314
http://www.charitynavigator.org/inde...ry&orgid=12842
31 mil on the veterans, 21 mil on fundraising. mmhmm
11-12-2012 , 10:29 PM
Yea, I recall seeing something about the salaries of WWP brass, didn't make a big deal of it, it's a difficult thing to bring up with people.

Some charities have causes that are marketed so well that no one dares question them without receiving the unending scorn of co-workers, friends and family.

Mathematically, one of the worst I've seen is Susan G Komen, but anyone who doesn't support SGK hates women.

I just found it funny that Clint Smith, the man who got into a pissing match with another firearms trainer over teaching Khloe Kardashian to shoot, decided to get all holier than thou on the WWP people because they don't want his help.
11-12-2012 , 10:34 PM
Disregard that. I just checked SGK, their numbers look ok.

It was a charity that helped women with something or other. It's on that same tier of "how dare you question the work of these marvelous people" though.
11-13-2012 , 01:03 AM
Yeah Charity Navigator says the WWP executive director is paid more than $300,000 annually. From what I've seen, around $100,000 or a bit more is the norm. And then I have to wonder if the directors are receiving kickbacks from any of that $21 million+ in fundraising expenses.

I just shake my head when people post on arfcom about WWP, like the people in the Palmetto State Armory industry forum clamoring for a WWP stripped lower. Right now there's a thread in the Arfcom Larue forum of people donating parts and money to build a gun to raffle off with all proceeds going to WWP. Considering the sort of blind devotion WWP gets, it looks like spending 30% of their donations on fund raising is paying dividends.

Definitely a sacred cow, and often I want to bring up the facts about this organization to people lauding WWP but ultimately don't, there are worse things people could blow their energy and income on I suppose.
11-13-2012 , 02:59 AM
Running a charity should be a middle class job. Even 100k is absurd for a charity. I guess it's dependent on where you live and operate out of, but 300k is absurd. Call me callous, I don't donate to any of them, and I never will, but if you operate a "charity" and pull in 6 figures you're a bad person.
11-13-2012 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
So alot of Kyles employment these days is actually just being FPSRussia.
Anyone here know how much youtube scales? E.g., FPSRussia has about 10x the subscribers as Hickok45 and Nutnfancy. Does that mean that Hickok and Nutnfancy make $20k/year just from Youtube?

      
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