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I wouldn't like my chances as a robber if I happened upon a home of the most of the posters ITT. Lirva be alright he would prolly to ****ed up to hit me before I stole his stash.

No way I'd miss. I take Hunter shooting courses.

03-04-2012 , 09:50 PM

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LirvA

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I historically have a bad temper

03-04-2012 , 09:59 PM

#1154

General Tsao

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you could have at least hit the X to see if there was any treasure in that wall.

03-04-2012 , 10:00 PM

#1155

seattlelou

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Originally Posted by LirvA

I historically have a bad temper

Yeah I will def call ahead and bring enough to share!

03-04-2012 , 10:13 PM

#1156

LirvA

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the red X is symbolic imo

03-04-2012 , 10:14 PM

#1157

DblBarrelJ

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That was worth a pounding back in the day. Pretty sure that's a Trainwreck now IMO.

03-04-2012 , 10:23 PM

#1158

LirvA

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Michelle though

03-04-2012 , 10:42 PM

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DblBarrelJ

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Im not reading that IMO

ETA: Always wondered what LirvA meant.

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03-05-2012 , 12:06 AM

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LirvA

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I'LL EDIT TO ADD YOU

03-05-2012 , 10:58 AM

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DblBarrelJ

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Read thread. Wow. You should've just ditched the gf and gotten with AvrilClone 2.3

03-05-2012 , 12:31 PM

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the steam

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How do you legally transport firearms in a SUV? there is no trunk

03-05-2012 , 01:26 PM

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awval999

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the steam

How do you legally transport firearms in a SUV? there is no trunk

Unloaded in a container. With ammunition separated from the firearm. With the firearm container inaccessable from the driver.

03-05-2012 , 01:27 PM

#1164

the steam

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Thank you sir

03-05-2012 , 02:50 PM

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NeBlis

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

viva la lirvalution

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low Key

I think they make a cream for that.

LirvaLotion IMO

03-05-2012 , 02:53 PM

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NeBlis

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Yes, it was a test fired round.

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Some states require a casing from the gun in the idiotic belief that it will help in the case a criminal investigation.

03-05-2012 , 03:02 PM

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brad2002tj

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Originally Posted by the steam

How do you legally transport firearms in a SUV? there is no trunk

I would be cautious in accepting any non state-specific advice. This varies from state to state. In Texas, for example, they recently amended the rule to allow you to carry a firearm on your person in your car even if you don't have a CHL. In California you are committing a crime in transporting the gun unless the gun is in a "locked" box. A non-locking box safely stored in your trunk doesn't count. And you have all sorts of rules in between.

03-05-2012 , 03:16 PM

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awval999

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Originally Posted by brad2002tj

I would be cautious in accepting any non state-specific advice. This varies from state to state. In Texas, for example, they recently amended the rule to allow you to carry a firearm on your person in your car even if you don't have a CHL. In The People's Republic of California you are committing a crime in transporting the gun unless the gun is in a "locked" box. A non-locking box safely stored in your trunk doesn't count. And you have all sorts of rules in between.

FYP

03-05-2012 , 03:42 PM

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NeBlis

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

do you guys think tritium night sights are essential on rifles?

The times where night sights actually work (near pitch darkness) and you still have enough light on your target to get contrast between it and the sights is near zero. Add that to times you dont have a light on your weapon or in your hand. Add that to the fact that tritium degrades over time and has to be replaced. Add to that other sights that work better especially for rifles (like an optic or dot or holo type).

So thats a no IMO unless they were given to you, or you were just playing around with stuff. There is really not much tactical use for tritium sights... IMO LDO

03-05-2012 , 04:30 PM

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Can we discuss the type of ammuntion for home defense?

I've been youtubing and it seems that normal bullets go through many walls, etc.

Are hollow-point rounds the gold standard here for handguns?

03-05-2012 , 04:35 PM

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NeBlis

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Originally Posted by brad2002tj

THIS, many states you can carry in your cor concealed or not loaded or not whatever, others have varying degrees of idiotic laws.

here is a decent list of the laws in various states,http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf. But double check everything. The last thing you want to have happen is to get arrested over some stupid little avoidable detail.

03-05-2012 , 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by awval999

Can we discuss the type of ammuntion for home defense?

I've been youtubing and it seems that normal bullets go through many walls, etc.

Are hollow-point rounds the gold standard here for handguns?

Yes hollow points are designed to only penetrate a certain depth of soft tissue whereas full metal jackets will keep penetrating through soft tissue until they impact something hard enough to stop the round. The mushroom effect in hollow points is not to inflict more damage its to slow down the bullet.

03-05-2012 , 04:56 PM

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SenorKeeed

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But hollow points will go through a couple of walls worth of drywall for sure. From what I've read they're more or less the same as ball ammo in that respect. So if you're not comfortable hitting your target and you're too worried about where your rounds might go, the solution isn't to change ammo. It's to either get more training so you are comfortable or plan on not using a gun in a home defense situation.

03-05-2012 , 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RadioActive1

Well the amount of damage sustained is going to be proportional to how quickly the bullet is slowed. Like all things being equal, if the bullet leaves the body with a higher velocity it will do less damage than one taking the same trajectory and leaving with a lower velocity (or staying in the body).

03-05-2012 , 05:19 PM

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NeBlis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by awval999

Can we discuss the type of ammuntion for home defense?

I've been youtubing and it seems that normal bullets go through many walls, etc.

All bullets will go through walls to some degree or another. Everyone wants a bullet that penetrates like mad and expands like mad in a bad guy, but bounces off sheetrock walls and falls inert on the ground.

You are gonna find allot of handwringing and silly about "overpenetration" etc. But mostly it comes down to rulle #4 Be sure of your target and what is beyond it

for more good info on penetration ( no not that kind you perv) and bullet performance look here. http://www.theboxotruth.com/

specifically this article but most are good Shooting Through Walls

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Are hollow-point rounds the gold standard here for handguns?

Yes without question. lots of testing online but the easiest answer I can give you for 357 is Speer Gold Dot 158 grain http://www.sgammo.com/product/speer/...point-53918-lp

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