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10-07-2008 , 11:23 PM

#826

jthegreat

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I think the point of the mortgage plan is to give McCain something concrete to point to so that he can say "Here's how the government will help the average person." whereas the current bailout is focused only on large corporations. It's a bold move (obviously not conservative) that could kill him OR gain him major brownie points with every day people.

10-07-2008 , 11:25 PM

#827

jokerthief

No reason to get excited

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieJack

Who is this Fred Thompson anyway, he sounds dumb he just said Jim Ayers

Fred Thompson =

10-07-2008 , 11:25 PM

#828

Bigdaddydvo

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Haven't followed the thread, did anyone notice Obama mentioning Delaware as the place for lax Credit Card rules. Biden's Delaware? Ooops?

On balance, Obama moved one step closer to winning this thing tonight.

10-07-2008 , 11:26 PM

#829

istewart

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Wtf is Carville blabbering about

10-07-2008 , 11:27 PM

#830

TimTimSalabim

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Uglyowl

Rewriting mortgage holders mortgage down to the current value of the home.

Letting an appraiser determine how much you owe -- no chance of corruption there.

10-07-2008 , 11:27 PM

#831

MrWookie

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Aaaaaand, Carville says we have to fear the race riots. Time to turn off CNN.

10-07-2008 , 11:27 PM

#832

anatta

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pundits first 2 debates tried to say they were draws, now going out of their way to say obama won when this was actually a draw except obama won cause all he needed was a draw. pundits suck 2+2ers r smarter no doubt. q - did anyone hear the that one comment and post about it here i missed it totally.

10-07-2008 , 11:28 PM

#833

dlk9s

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LOL Fox News text message poll: McCain 86%, Obama 12%

10-07-2008 , 11:29 PM

#834

crzylgs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieJack

Who is this Fred Thompson anyway, he sounds dumb he just said Jim Ayers

18 months ago he was the great white hope of the christian right. lul

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...624881,00.html

10-07-2008 , 11:29 PM

#835

bluef0x

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jthegreat

According to DIAL-TECHNOLOGY, Dems went a tick up. Independents dropped like 15 ticks. Republicans dropped a million ticks.

10-07-2008 , 11:29 PM

#836

Double Eagle

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So Barack and Michelle stayed to work the room while John and Cindy got the hell out of Dodge? Wtf?

10-07-2008 , 11:30 PM

#837

crzylgs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dlk9s

LOL Fox News text message poll: McCain 86%, Obama 12%

HOME RUN

GAMECHANGER

MAVERICK

10-07-2008 , 11:30 PM

#838

RedSoxFan19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Aaaaand Gergen says we can't say this election is over because Obama is black. Gogogogogo Bradley effect and racism.

This is all conservatives have left to hold on to. It's their only chance. They need America to be racist one time. Look for McCain and other Republicans to attack Blacks more and more like they did tonight. McCain refered to Obama as "that one" meaning that he's not a person. McCain also told the black guy in the audience who asked a question that he had never heard of Fannie or Freddie because black people are stupid. Desperate times call for desperate measures and McCain is ready to say anything to be President.

10-07-2008 , 11:31 PM

#839

cres

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Well the verdict is in..........Foxnews text poll shows 86% that McCain won the debate. Hannity for Secretary of State.

And that will be the last time I watch that show

10-07-2008 , 11:32 PM

#840

metsandfinsfan

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McCain needs to outline his mortgage plan ASAP. I dont like it, but if this is his Hail Mary, make is substantial

Fox News killed McCain after the debate, so i dont think anything else needs to be said

10-07-2008 , 11:33 PM

#841

anatta

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is that what he meant by "that one"? he's black and not a person? I find that hard to believe. I think its just weird and a gaffe but dont really see what else it could be. "that one"?? wtf.

10-07-2008 , 11:34 PM

#842

plano

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso

Except for this crazy McCain proposal. McCain bodyslammed Obama in this debate.

I would expect this view from a religious nut with seven kids, obviously blinded by his right wing opinions. You probably thought Palin won her debate also and think Obama is a terrorist who is actually fron Kenya.

Open your eyes Stu.

10-07-2008 , 11:34 PM

#843

Bill Murphy

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Originally Posted by AussieJack

What debate was Hannity watching?

I think everyone at Fox knows this is over, except Hannity, who is clearly insane. Barnes still thinks "values" could pull it out, though.

In a pure vacuum, I give McCain maybe a 102-98 cumulative edge, but that's not nearly enough to swing this. McCain probably exceeded expectations the first time, and Obama probably missed expectations tonight, but not enough to matter.

I'm still slightly leaning Obama if I lived in a swing state, but.... Christ Almighty. What must it be like to have a couple kids, spouse with a slight health problem, and a paycheck that barely makes the bills right now?

10-07-2008 , 11:35 PM

#844

Bill Murphy

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Originally Posted by plano

I would expect this view from a religious nut with seven kids, .

You mean like the Kennedys?

10-07-2008 , 11:35 PM

#845

TimTimSalabim

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Eagle

So Barack and Michelle stayed to work the room while John and Cindy got the hell out of Dodge? Wtf?

He's got to get home and watch Matlock and hit the hay

10-07-2008 , 11:35 PM

#846

DWarrior

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Obama wins because he still has Sharpton if all else fails.

10-07-2008 , 11:36 PM

#847

bluef0x

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I'm still slightly leaning Obama if I lived in a swing state, but.... Christ Almighty. What must it be like to have a couple kids, spouse with a slight health problem, and a paycheck that barely makes the bills right now?

The bitch can live with a sore back, I want to avoid the next holocaust! Vote McCain

10-07-2008 , 11:37 PM

#848

crzylgs

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Hannity and Rove drunk on Maverick-juice on Fox. Apparently Palin is still going to win this election for McCain...

10-07-2008 , 11:38 PM

#849

GlennBeck

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I thought McCain won the first debate based on substance, I thought Palin won her debate based on style, I thought Obama won tonight based on rhetoric.