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09-08-2011 , 07:19 PM

#101

Regret$

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Repubs should pass if they get vouchers.

09-08-2011 , 07:28 PM

#102

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle

AP is now reporting that the Jobs Bill costs $450 Billion instead of the $300-$400 Billion reported earlier.

Great!

Wasn't there a conservative itt complaining that wtf is $300 bil going to do anyway just a few days ago?

09-08-2011 , 07:29 PM

#103

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam

It is up to 450 Billion now...It keeps climbing like the debt ceiling and the deficit.

Solyndra "model" Green Jobs Company filed BK and was raided by the feds today. More shovel ready win. We only wasted half a billion dollars on this though...So they lost 1000 jerbs today instead of shoveling in the win

Wow Solyndra must be blowing up the pundit/gramma-chain-email-o-sphere

09-08-2011 , 07:33 PM

#104

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Wasn't there a conservative itt complaining that wtf is $300 bil going to do anyway just a few days ago?

Yes, anything less than one quadrillion is not enough.

09-08-2011 , 07:37 PM

#105

will1530

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Wasn't there a conservative itt complaining that wtf is $300 bil going to do anyway just a few days ago?

I think you're talking about me, and what I said was

Quote:

The left isn't going to like this because its "too small" and the right isn't going to like it because its "lol Obama". However, the people that really matter in Presidential elections (the uninformed and generally uncaring independents) are going to hear "jobs plan" and very likely the next day "Republicans oppose jobs plan". Obama will then use that opposition to bash Republicans all the way to the election. Politically I think its best for Republicans to just give this to the President, and when it fails bury him with it next year.

So round one is about complete. Incoming tomorrow, "Republicans oppose jobs bill". Coming soon to an election near you, "Republicans opposed jobs bill, it's their fault the economy sucks".

09-08-2011 , 07:42 PM

#106

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No way this dude is going to lose reelection.

09-08-2011 , 07:43 PM

#107

pokerbobo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElliotR

Nice try indeed. So you have no idea where this regulation comes from, and just copied and pasted it from some right wing site without checking into the facts for yourself. And you still don't.

oh the humanity.

Yeah, not like there is any confusion out there on teh web. This site http://www.automedia.com/Rearview_Ca...sm20091201rv/1
says this:

Quote:

In 2002, Greg Gulbransen accidentally backed his BMW X5 sport-utility vehicle over his two-year-old son, Cameron, killing him. The Long Island pediatrician helped create a political movement that resulted in a law that promises to help reduce similar tragedies. In 2008, the U.S. Congress passed, and President George W. Bush signed, the Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Act. The law requires that almost all cars, pickups, and SUVs be equipped with devices to warn drivers of objects behind the vehicle

But when you look here,

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-694

Quote:

S. 694: Cameron Gulbransen Kids Transportation Safety Act of 2007
110th Congress: 2007-2008

A bill to direct the Secretary of Transportation to issue regulations to reduce the incidence of child injury and death occurring inside or outside of light motor vehicles, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen. Hillary Clinton [D-NY]
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.

Then, there is the CNN Money headline from 2010, clearing things up further with the headline: Autos may be required to have back-up cameras
Add the Jan 2011 link I provided earlier that stated it is still a proposed mandate

None of which changes the fact that you seemed to think "I called for obama to do XXXXX" when I never called for him to do anything.

What I have learned in my interweb search is that some dip**** doctor, (probably on his cell phone) backed over his toddler and killed him, so in his mourning and guilt decided that govt involvement is needed to save others from his fate (or his son's fate)..... as we all know, when something is "for the children" it is gonna pass cause no one wants to be portryed as "a kid hater". Voila.... the KIDS TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ACT is born at an estimated cost of 2 billion and expected to save about 100 lives. (we can revisit in 2015 to see if the bill saves lives as it's supposed to.)

I really wouldn't be shocked if this mandate actually costs more lives. Some bad drivers will hear the alarm or beep and freak out and hit the gas thinking they are hitting the brake, so instead of a soft glancing blow, they may provide the fatal curbstomp.

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09-08-2011 , 07:47 PM

#108

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Originally Posted by Regret$

No way this dude is going to lose reelection.

No matter how much I criticize him he makes me feel good about the US when he talks. It's weird.

09-08-2011 , 07:49 PM

#109

CharlieDontSurf

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Perry: SS = Ponzi Scheme

Obama: Hahahahahaha lol U Mad, 4 more years 4 Me!

09-08-2011 , 08:09 PM

#110

JiggsCasey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf

Perry: SS = Ponzi Scheme

Obama: Hahahahahaha lol U Mad, 4 more years 4 Me!

Perhaps... but doesn't change the fact that Rick Perry is an enormous turd sandwich.

09-08-2011 , 08:36 PM

#111

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

No matter how much I criticize him he makes me feel good about the US when he talks. It's weird.

Everything he says sounds great and then we just continue on with the same crap.

09-08-2011 , 08:39 PM

#112

ItsRainingMen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

No matter how much I criticize him he makes me feel good about the US when he talks. It's weird.

lolwat

every time he talks i feel even dirtier about how much i wanted him to be president

on one hand, it makes me sad that in the last decade+ our options for the presidency have been dubya, gore, kerry, mcpalin, obama and perry, on the other hand there probably is no such thing as an ideal president anymore

09-08-2011 , 08:54 PM

#113

VayaConDios

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I don't think some people itt even know what a regulation is

09-08-2011 , 08:57 PM

#114

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In before Obama declares a moratorium on regulations and republicans scramble for a few days to find their next talking point.

09-08-2011 , 09:21 PM

#115

Matt_PBA

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So a lot of people itt are not fans of the Presidents job plan. What would you do then?

09-08-2011 , 09:44 PM

#116

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_PBA

So a lot of people itt are not fans of the Presidents job plan. What would you do then?

The president hit it on the head when he said we needed to get over 'partisan bicker' and not strip away modest protections of life limb and all that, the problem is that the partisan bickering is actually the bickering of trade associations who are committing legal bribery. He does not intend to do any of these things. The problem is that our country has gone down the toilet with bad decisions and is unwilling to admit its mistakes. Until everyone wakes up and smells the roses, it will not get any better.

09-08-2011 , 09:54 PM

#117

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"Can we please put aside partisan bickering and spend hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have? Thanks, and God Bless!"

09-08-2011 , 09:59 PM

#118

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_PBA

So a lot of people itt are not fans of the Presidents job plan. What would you do then?

bitch

09-08-2011 , 10:02 PM

#119

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Quote:

Originally Posted by govman6767

MaxineWaterscryinglikeababy.jpg

GOVMAN4KINGIMO

09-08-2011 , 10:38 PM

#120

Pyramid_Scam

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

"Can we please put aside partisan bickering and spend hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have? Thanks, and God Bless!"

Over/Under before the US Dollar is removed as the global reserve currency?

In B4 $8 Milk, $10 gas, and 22% mortgage rates.

09-08-2011 , 10:39 PM

#121

aggo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

"Can we please put aside partisan bickering and spend hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have? Thanks, and God Bless!"

why should i be so concerned about the national debt?

09-08-2011 , 10:41 PM

#122

pokerbobo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf

Perry: SS = Ponzi Scheme

Obama: Hahahahahaha lol U Mad, 4 more years 4 Me!

Bolded is no longer allowed according to forum rules, being that it's uber racist and all..... ecspecially if you have obama saying it.

09-08-2011 , 11:03 PM

#123

Bluffzorz

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I'm beggining to think the whole reason the Obama campaign was setup was just to pass healthcare. To essentially get back at the GOP.

I tend to lean towards the democrats but Obama has kinda pissed me off. Only thing I really liked that he has done was the stem cell thing. It's dumb to have the stem cell thing illegal like it was for Bush. Just look at what Bartolo Colon did with stem cells.

09-08-2011 , 11:16 PM

#124

pokerbobo

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Originally Posted by Bluffzorz

Bush did not make stem cell research illegal, he just did not provide government funding for the research. Plenty of private companies continued on with stem cell research.

09-08-2011 , 11:21 PM

#125

savman

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So does anyone have cliffs?

Looking for something a little more in depth that it makes me proud to be a 'merican.

other than WAAF, which goes without saying.

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