That's what the first stimulus was supposed to be for.

will1530 wins this thread. Please post in the forum more.

R strategy is to give your opponent nothing positive they can possibly run on.

Obama should just tell his regulatory agencies to back off. Stop hindering business. Costs taxpayers no money.



This-plus offer tax incentives to businesses that have new hires. Something has to be done about the unfairness of NAFTA. China adds a tax to all imported American goods, we don't add on to China's imports here. If we deregulated refineries some then our gas wouldn't cost so much since more refineries could be built. This proposal is an effort to gain some lost political capital on Obama's part, nothing else. If this assclown gets re-elected we all deserve our fates.

I mean you are going to blow your political load on a massive speech to the nation to announce your plan to...extend existing policies and enact more tax breaks for rich people, errrrrrrrrr job creators?

This is just ******ed politics. What the **** is he thinking? How can someone run such a brilliant campaign and fail so hard at basic political calculation?

Ty for proving my point.

Don't doubt the mans genius. He will annihilate any hardcore repub offered up. He is right at the middle of this ****ty system so noone can accuse him of not trying to find compromise and middle ground. Also with tax cuts, many repubs will cross the line because those hypocrats donot give one solidary turd about the deficit.

Cutting back on regs would cut GOVERNMENT JOBS!!! To the Obama admin 1 govt job is worth hundreds of private sector jobs so that will never happen.

150b in tax breaks does sound pretty good.

Agree regarding regulations.... some Chinese products are actually quite expensive to import.... polyester is a good example, China makes a crapload of clothing with polyester and the manufacturing cost is quite cheap, but by the time you can actually get it inside the US, the cost is much higher.

Refineries are a mixed bag of problems. Gas demand is not peaking in the US aorn as millions of people have no job, and therefore need to drive to work. The crap economy as a whole also has suppressed demand. It is tough enough to get a refinery built in boom times when demand is high, you can pretty much forget it in down times....NIMBY/BANANA and all that.

Yeah he is ending the war in Iraq that was the point I'm assuming?

why should they. The deficit doesn't do anything.

random off topic question - but exactly is the "middle class" that obama and everyone keep referencing? Is there a bracket of some kind to determine if I qualify?

I saw this defenition - It defines people as middle-class if they fall between the 30th and 70th percentiles in income distribution, which for a family of four is between $32,900 and $64,000 a year in 2010 dollars.

but that seems ******ed. If you are married with 2 kids and make 64K total you are ****ing poor. 32K a year before taxes per spouse w/ two kids seems brutal

Here's a fun fact.

When the Republicans got what they wanted in the debt deal the Stock Market tanked, our debt got downgraded and we were in danger of another recession.

Obama announces jobs plan and the stock market shoots up and there are many articles coming out that we are not in danger of a recession.

I wonder what Republicans are going to start saying when Jobs and the Economy start growing again by the end of this quarter. I imagine something to the tune of ZOMG the deficit.

thats where the middle class is these days. Thats the point. The middle class used to make much more then that.

Noone said that the middle class isn't poor.

Obama can't just keep throwing money at our problems expecting them to go away. By doing so he is in fact increasing the deficit so yes the Republicans will start crying foul on the increased deficit. What some on the left forget is that the money Obama is spending is OUR TAXES. Until manufacturing comes back in the United States there will be no more jobs, better stock markets or a better economy.

yeah, right after throwing sissy fit about debt reduction. Consistency? We has it!!!! Somehow i am not hearing all those voices...you know those who were all up in arms about Bush tax cuts. I thought we were supposed to raise taxes???

So, I gotta ask, does anyone know what these actually are? Obamacare is one, ok. Got that. What other regulations has Obama implemented that are novel compared to regulations under both Clinton and Bush that are so obviously killing jobs and can/should be repealed with no negative consequences? Everyone rails against "teh regulashunz," including people on this forum, GOP candidates, Fox News anchors, etc., but no one ever spells out what they are or which ones are so bad. Forgive my skepticism, but it sounds like the widely-held belief that Obama raised taxes when, well, he actually cut them.

The only other one I can think of is the drilling in the Gulf, but lol at that being the solution to the nation's unemployment. I hear the hurricane season is a great time to drill baby, drill.

Because campaigning on something and actually doing it are not the same thing?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/econom...onomy-billions

Love the estimate on the first one..... somewhere between 19 and 90 billion. LOL

From Heritage

I gotta wonder just what the hell this is, and how rearview mirrors can cost two billion.

I believe they are trying to mandate rearview cameras on every vehicle..... supposedly a few hundred people get runover by a car in reverse every year.... but if you don't check your mirror or look behind your car, I don't know what makes them think you will check your camera monitor.

New laws and regulations on derivative trading, mortgage securities trading and trading on various other financial products generally not understood by the industry...and most of the requests for clarifications are being either ignored or explanations are even more vague then regulations themselves.

hmm yeah lets get rid of regulations. That worked so well for the housing market...