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Nevada Rancher Hilarity: The Tragic Death of Y'All Qaeda's Tarp Man Nevada Rancher Hilarity: The Tragic Death of Y'All Qaeda's Tarp Man

01-10-2016 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
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...We than advanced down the driveway into the refuge. While walking a white truck containing individuals with Blain Cooper in it. He called lewis and lewis stated not now Blain. Blaine cooper ran after lewis and punched him from behind. Lewis than turned around and hot hit again. I ran over to try and say we don't need this and than Mr. Cooper stuck me in the face and than i called 911 at that time. Lewis ordered us to leave the property and not return violence...we left property...
Yeah, like the cops are going to show up and get shot by these guys. WTF?

Last edited by 13ball; 01-10-2016 at 10:36 PM. Reason: and it's then. then then then. Every time it's then.
01-10-2016 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I'm surprised no one has taken a drone out there and flown it around those guys. I imagine this will happen with the next two weeks.
I got this for Christmas:

01-11-2016 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I'm surprised no one has taken a drone out there and flown it around those guys. I imagine this will happen with the next two weeks.
I'm sure a drone would last a long time flying over them.
01-11-2016 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
I'm sure a drone would last a long time flying over them.
Love to see them blast a government drone out of the sky and add to their charges, though.
01-11-2016 , 01:38 AM
Cliven Bundy never faced any charges nor did the Yahoos pointing guns at federal officers, these guys seem to be allowed to come and go as they please, increase their ranks, snacks are brought to them, they have power and heat. Are they even going to face any charges when this is over?
01-11-2016 , 04:53 AM
Presumably all unoccupied government buildings and land are fair game then? Just take a few friends and plenty of ammo, set up camp and announce that you will defend yourself if anyone attempts to move you?
01-11-2016 , 09:36 AM
As long as you aren't a black man or boy, it's fair game.
01-11-2016 , 10:27 AM
I can't imagine any other time where you can commit a crime, threaten the authorities with guns (and even point guns at some) if they try to arrest you or give you orders, and then not only get away with the crime, but also the threats and resisting arrest.

If myself and a band of armed, stolen-valor-wearing idiots rob a 7/11 and then threaten to shoot any cop who tries to arrest us, imagine the outcome.

These guys should be arrested at the first opportunity. If they then resist arrest by not dropping their weapons, or by opening fire on the authorities, that's when you mow them the **** down and it was even more reason to arrest them in the first place.

We either have laws or we don't. Threatening the lives of cops/feds shouldn't be a license to do whatever you want. I find this bizarre.
01-11-2016 , 10:39 AM
Well, if anyone didn't believe in white privilege before, it's certainly on open display in this case
01-11-2016 , 01:54 PM
Is this lack of reaction purely political? - I mean there is a Democrat President and Trump is leading the Polls for the Republican nomination - if the Feds do something and it backfires from a PR perspective (which seems quite likely if it involves killing White Americans claiming to uphold the constitution) then whoever makes that call is presumably going to have to take a lot of flack from above and possibly have their career affected.

While it is probably a good thing they're not going in there guns blazing - it seems like they're reluctant to even put up a cordon and shut them off from the outside world.
01-11-2016 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
As long as you aren't a black man or boy, it's fair game.
or a muslim obv

this whole thing pisses me off so much, these *******s are such hypocritical pieces of **** decrying the federal govt and claiming rights to land they don't own while they happily take advantage of all kinds of subsidized benefits not limited to wildfire and predatory animal protection,drought relief money, interest-free loans subsidized by federal taxpayers, etc

such ****ing lowlifes, want to see every one of these guys dead or in prison
01-11-2016 , 02:00 PM
I think the lack of reaction reflects several considerations, including "political" factors. But, if by "political" you mean purely concerned with optics and elections, then I don't think that's the most important. Rather, I'd say the biggest factors are:

1)they took over an unoccupied building in the middle of nowhere and seem to pose no urgent threat to anyone

2) pretty much everyone agrees that a repeat of Waco or Ruby Ridge is undesirable, mostly because there is evidence that those confrontations led to a large increase in the size of the militia movement.

3) they assume that they can wait them out and arrest them without a firefight.

All of those suggest a strategy of avoiding a firefight.
01-11-2016 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
So just curious about undercover policin' that never occurred to me and movies/TV haven't answered satisfactorily: what are real-world undercover agents trained to do if a fire fight breaks out between their marks and the cops? Turn on the targets of the investigation and let their cover slip? Fire on their fellow LE agents? That can't be right. Fire terribly like a Stormtrooper from Star Wars and make sure you don't hit anyone? Slink off into the nearby woods or something?
I very much doubt a police officer would sit there and allow anyone to actively try and kill his colleagues... Isn't a cop getting shot or killed the top priority for any police department to react to? Everyone on duty racing to the scene. I think whatever the undercover investigation is in your hypothetical scenario it likely isn't as important as an officer's life being in immediate danger.
01-11-2016 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
3) they assume that they can wait them out and arrest them without a firefight.

All of those suggest a strategy of avoiding a firefight.
true - though re: that last one - it doesn't look like there were arrests following the Nevada incident, presumably there must be arrests after this one?

And if they get charged with a felony then they're presumably not allowed those guns any more.
01-11-2016 , 02:07 PM
I assume there will be arrests. I certainly hope there will be arrests. If there are not arrests I will be Most Displeased :P
01-11-2016 , 02:12 PM
These guys aren't going to let themselves get arrested without a fight
01-11-2016 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I think the lack of reaction reflects several considerations, including "political" factors. But, if by "political" you mean purely concerned with optics and elections, then I don't think that's the most important. Rather, I'd say the biggest factors are:

1)they took over an unoccupied building in the middle of nowhere and seem to pose no urgent threat to anyone

2) pretty much everyone agrees that a repeat of Waco or Ruby Ridge is undesirable, mostly because there is evidence that those confrontations led to a large increase in the size of the militia movement.

3) they assume that they can wait them out and arrest them without a firefight.

All of those suggest a strategy of avoiding a firefight.
But will they even be arrested? No one was ever arrested from Cliven's adventures afaik.
01-11-2016 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
But will they even be arrested? No one was ever arrested from Cliven's adventures afaik.
Obviously I don't know, but it seems reasonable to think that charges are more likely in this case given the takeover of a federal building. Basically I can imagine that while the BLM might have been satisfied with its court cases and cattle roundup but those don't apply here and the FBI is more likely to make arrests on criminal charges.

I guess all I'm saying is that the lack of immediate reaction seems reasonable given the considerations I've listed. It's possible they are allowed to leave without being charged or arrested but I think that would be outrageous.
01-11-2016 , 02:42 PM
They'll probably make some deal to give them a slap on the wrist to end. Those metrosexual crybabies wouldn't last a week in prison.
01-11-2016 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
Obviously I don't know, but it seems reasonable to think that charges are more likely in this case given the takeover of a federal building. Basically I can imagine that while the BLM might have been satisfied with its court cases and cattle roundup but those don't apply here and the FBI is more likely to make arrests on criminal charges.
When the FBI charge people does it tend to result in a 'felony'?
01-11-2016 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dowie
When the FBI charge people does it tend to result in a 'felony'?
haha, exciting implications
01-11-2016 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I assume there will be arrests. I certainly hope there will be arrests. If there are not arrests I will be Most Displeased :P
you will not be the only displeased one.

haven't they been told arrest warrants are awaiting them? or did i pick that up from a "rumor story"?
01-11-2016 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
They'll probably make some deal to give them a slap on the wrist to end. Those metrosexual crybabies wouldn't last a week in prison.
couple of weeks in rikers would do them a world of good.
01-11-2016 , 03:34 PM
Federal weapons charges could make it very hard for them to play with their toys in the future.
01-11-2016 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
such ****ing lowlifes, want to see every one of these guys dead or in prison
Maybe we can tone the bloodlust down a little bit

      
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